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Criterium Racing

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:07 pm
by Parker
Hi,

So where is the racing Crit racing in Perth? When does it start up again?

Are their women's grades or do we race with the men?

Cheers
Rowena

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:12 pm
by Tornado
I'm not really in the know, but I would contact your local club. I know that Peel Districts do criteriums down here in Mandurah regularly. http://pdcc.asn.au/

Oh and I think it's split by grade and not by gender. There are many ladies who whip my butt on Saturday Shop rides and I guess I whip some other ladies butts. It depends where you are at I guess.

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:27 pm
by Parker
Tornado wrote:I'm not really in the know, but I would contact your local club. I know that Peel Districts do criteriums down here in Mandurah regularly. http://pdcc.asn.au/

Oh and I think it's split by grade and not by gender. There are many ladies who whip my butt on Saturday Shop rides and I guess I whip some other ladies butts. It depends where you are at I guess.
In Melbourne we have women's grades, plenty of the A grade women place highly amongst the A grade men when they choose to race that way.

I'm still trying to decide on a club

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:37 pm
by Tornado
We may have separate racing. I'm not sure. I've only been to watch Peel a couple of times and it appeared to be combined there.

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:53 pm
by lukee
Club choice might be driven by where you live...location?

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:19 pm
by Parker
Scab beach

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:58 pm
by giwi2
Northern Districts CC

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:52 am
by nickobec
Criterium season does not start till November

It is mixed sex graded racing AFAIK

Race calendars for Peel http://pdcc.asn.au/racing/events/ West Coast Masters http://www.wcmasterscycling.asn.au/cale ... lendar.htm (afraid you are too young)

Northern Districts is your closest club, but no idea of their calendar, their website is not the best or up to date, Fremantle-Melville next closest, same about calendar/website, Midland is a bit further, especially when their races are in the hills. Peel, bit of hike for you, but you can pop your bike on a train and then only have a short ride to most of their courses.

ps why wait for the Crit season, the road season is on now

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:46 pm
by Parker
Road Racing? Primarily because I'm a triathlete training for Ironman and I've only got time for so much stuff at the moment.

My schedule is pretty full, criteriums will be perfect brick training (hard effort followed by a run of the bike for a few km's) and I actually like crits.

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:05 pm
by nickobec
Parker wrote:Road Racing? Primarily because I'm a triathlete training for Ironman and I've only got time for so much stuff at the moment
About 1/4 the people I race with are triathletes in "training", though most for a local half ironman coming up in a couple of months.

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:10 pm
by skull
I would assume road racing would be better suited for IM training rather than a crit.

Better yet check out the roster for when the club has their TT's on.

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Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:15 pm
by Parker
nickobec wrote:
Parker wrote:Road Racing? Primarily because I'm a triathlete training for Ironman and I've only got time for so much stuff at the moment
About 1/4 the people I race with are triathletes in "training", though most for a local half ironman coming up in a couple of months.
Awesome for that 1/4 of people that you race with.

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:16 pm
by Parker
skull wrote:I would assume road racing would be better suited for IM training rather than a crit.

Better yet check out the roster for when the club has their TT's on.

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If you want generalise then that's a great statement to make, you got access to my coach and training program when?

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:48 pm
by skull
I was making comment about it and providing a suggestion. If you want be an internets warrior then fill your boots.

If you don't like hearing from other peoples posts on the net maybe cut back on the caffinated drinks and log off instead of getting overly sensitive.

Might be a good time to look up the srsly clip on you tube.

Funny bunch these triathletes :roll:
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Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:29 pm
by Parker
skull wrote:I was making comment about it and providing a suggestion. If you want be an internets warrior then fill your boots.

If you don't like hearing from other peoples posts on the net maybe cut back on the caffinated drinks and log off instead of getting overly sensitive.

Might be a good time to look up the srsly clip on you tube.

Funny bunch these triathletes :roll:
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Your comment on the emotion that you appear to have interpreted through my words on my previous post is incorrect.

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:48 pm
by skull
Maybe I should cut back on the caffinated drinks.

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Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:03 pm
by Parker
skull wrote:Maybe I should cut back on the caffinated drinks.

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life is best lived at full speed ;)

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:25 pm
by Troy C
I can provide somewhat more relevant answers to your question. Yes Crits start around November and yes Peel is to far for you
Northern Districts, Midland Cycling club and RCCC all have crits on during summer, but date are not released until the last minute.
But during summer you could say every 2nd week there is a crit on near Perth, Most of the time north Perth.
IF you are on Facebook , Like cycling WA, good info is posted there
To race these crits you will need a Cycling Australia Elite license

Also something from left field and if you can do early mornings ATTA have a great TT series in Kings Park during summer Tuesday Mornings with a female points comp.
Regards
Troy

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:48 pm
by Parker
Thanks Troy, Summer series at Kings Park sounds good, I'm assuming if work took away my twitter and gmail that they took away my facebook, I'll check it out when I get home.

Thanks for the relevant answers :wink:

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:18 pm
by eldavo
This thread was looking like worlds collide train wreck, but has turned out nicely thanks Troy C :)
I'm interested in seeing the Kings Park summer series just as a spectator (I don't feel like a 1/4 of a triathlete), I heard about it and saw riders filtering out around the city as I was getting to work last season.

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:48 pm
by nickobec
Hey Parker I should of been more specific.

In my grade races at Peel most weeks there are 3 to 6 members of the Rockingham Tri Club who use road races as part of the structured training for the Mandurah 70.3

I have had the triathlete training structure explained to me, but as a is cyclist (who can't swim due to shoulder injury) and committed to a single sport, I think I grasped the basics, but that is it.

IMHO it is part the social nature and part the competitive nature of road races that make then more "fun" training than solo rides on the TT bike. Even though you tempo does vary dramatically in a road race, compared to your typical triathlon and you don't need to leave anything for the run.

So looking for something to break the monotony of solo training rides and it fits your training structure, maybe check with your local tri club and see if anybody does similar "road race" training.

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:05 pm
by Parker
nickobec wrote:Hey Parker I should of been more specific.

In my grade races at Peel most weeks there are 3 to 6 members of the Rockingham Tri Club who use road races as part of the structured training for the Mandurah 70.3

I have had the triathlete training structure explained to me, but as a is cyclist (who can't swim due to shoulder injury) and committed to a single sport, I think I grasped the basics, but that is it.

IMHO it is part the social nature and part the competitive nature of road races that make then more "fun" training than solo rides on the TT bike. Even though you tempo does vary dramatically in a road race, compared to your typical triathlon and you don't need to leave anything for the run.

So looking for something to break the monotony of solo training rides and it fits your training structure, maybe check with your local tri club and see if anybody does similar "road race" training.
I'm not looking to break the monotony of solo training rides, I like them, I don't like road racing, I like criteriums because i raced crits before I started tri's and it's not bad threshold training and there's nothing wrong with doing a run after a crit.

I'm not looking for a new coach right now

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:13 pm
by Tornado
By the sounds of it there should be plenty of opportunities closer to Summer up near Perth. Hopefully that should suit your requirements soon. I'm with you on the Crits. They do look quite fun, but I am also interested in road racing. Hoping to do some in 2013 down here with Peel. That's the goal anyway. Will assess where I'm at physically towards the year with some more miles under the belt.

Mite hit up Nickobec closer to the time for some first hand info.

Re: Criterium Racing

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:01 pm
by Karati
Most of the road racing around town is like a long crit race anyway. Round a circuit etc just a bit longer.