Armstrong. Cheat!
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Armstrong. Cheat!
Postby Jackfrost » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:39 pm
I wonder how all the Lance Armstrong fanboys are going to react to the news today? I am predicting a meltdown!
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Postby Karati » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:59 pm
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Postby Jackfrost » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:03 pm
They are one in the sameKarati wrote:have they proved he cheated or has he just given up the fight?
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Re: Armstrong. Cheat!
Postby Tornado » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:16 pm
Refusing to participate is not an admission of guilt. It is a legal right in our nation and the states. Nothing more. Nothing less.Jackfrost wrote:They are one in the sameKarati wrote:have they proved he cheated or has he just given up the fight?
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Re: Armstrong. Cheat!
Postby Jackfrost » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:43 pm
I guess he doesn't have the balls to fight a lost causeTornado wrote:Refusing to participate is not an admission of guilt. It is a legal right in our nation and the states. Nothing more. Nothing less.Jackfrost wrote:They are one in the sameKarati wrote:have they proved he cheated or has he just given up the fight?
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Postby uncle arthur » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:12 pm
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Postby Baldy » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:53 pm
Let the smugfest begin
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Postby rambler1au » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:38 pm
He did pass all the tests that he was given at the time,
The tests that were tainted were at the end of his career, so an old man can't handle losing, so what, the races where he was tested and were tainted were minors, he had already retired.
So he gets stripped of the titles, he has already retired what does he care. Second place in the races - some will go to Contador, but we know he cheated, so lets go to the third place whos he? What does anyone care.
So that brings me to the testing reigime altogether lets say all many of the olimpians in 2012 are cheating but they havent worked out how, so in 10 years time they find the drug, so second should be first third should be first etc etc, who is going to care who won.
Its a mess
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Postby sogood » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:54 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Postby marinmomma » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:06 pm
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Postby Jackfrost » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:08 pm
Ok so we just let people get away with blood doping and cheating. Great message to those that think they may get away with it for a few years. Just for the record here's the list of riders that would benefit from Armstrong finally being found out:rambler1au wrote:whatever you think of Armstrong I dont believe he should be stripped of the Tour trophies.
He did pass all the tests that he was given at the time,
The tests that were tainted were at the end of his career, so an old man can't handle losing, so what, the races where he was tested and were tainted were minors, he had already retired.
So he gets stripped of the titles, he has already retired what does he care. Second place in the races - some will go to Contador, but we know he cheated, so lets go to the third place whos he? What does anyone care.
So that brings me to the testing reigime altogether lets say all many of the olimpians in 2012 are cheating but they havent worked out how, so in 10 years time they find the drug, so second should be first third should be first etc etc, who is going to care who won.
Its a mess
Disgraceful sport is a disgrace.1999
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Alex Zülle (‘98 busted for EPO)
3. Fernando Escartín (Systematic team doping exposed in ‘04)
4. Laurent Dufaux (‘98 busted for EPO)
5. Ángel Casero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
2000
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Christophe Moraue (‘98 busted for EPO)
5. Roberto Heras (‘05 busted for EPO)
2001
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Andrei Kivilev
5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
2002
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Raimondas Rumšas (Suspended in ‘03 for doping)
4. Santiago Botero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
2003
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
3. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)
4. Tyler Hamilton (Suspended ‘04 for blood doping)
5. Haimar Zubeldia
2004
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Andreas Kloden (Named in doping case in ‘08)
3. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
4. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Jose Azevedo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
2005
1. Lance Armstrong
2. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
3. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
4. Fransico Mancebo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
5. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)
Armstrong must have been superhuman to beat all these drug cheats. Should really disband these sort of races altogether as all they do is breed a culture of drug cheating and real athletes being left out of any sort of accolades.
No wonder it's call the Tour De Farce
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Re: Armstrong. Cheat!
Postby liamb » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:24 pm
Dont know what your agenda is mate but maybe you need to do it in your own lunch box????
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Re: Armstrong. Cheat!
Postby Jackfrost » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:56 pm
Shame I didn't swap lunch boxes with Lance 'Wingnut' Armstrong. Would be interesting to see what his mum packed for himliamb wrote:Geeeee Jackfrost came in with 3 posts and is all about bagging cycling as a sport wonder what the Mods think of this????
Dont know what your agenda is mate but maybe you need to do it in your own lunch box????
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Re: Armstrong. Cheat!
Postby Tornado » Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:16 pm
Mud sticks. Full stop. Whether you deserve it or not.Jackfrost wrote: I guess he doesn't have the balls to fight a lost cause
I have no idea if he is guilty or not. He does have the right to silence. I respect that
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Postby ColinOldnCranky » Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:06 pm
Does this make it more possible or less possible for them to go after him?
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Postby Mulger bill » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:23 am
Jack, I won't go so far as to call you a troll but I will be watching...
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