Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby rider_1 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:52 pm

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Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby Marty Moose » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:57 pm

Its not legal but for the most part its safe. Many on here get heated about this topic.

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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby Chef » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:31 pm

Hi,

Doable, but not safe - I have met cyclists coming up (on my way down) a couple of times and had a very close call on one occasion.

Harden up and ride the hill up
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby paulz » Sun Dec 29, 2013 10:00 pm

Chef wrote:Hi,

Doable, but not safe - I have met cyclists coming up (on my way down) a couple of times and had a very close call on one occasion.

Harden up and ride the hill up


Couldn't agree more! Had close calls with riders heading up the hill 2 or 3 abreast on a narrow road with limited sight lines.
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby zues » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:18 pm

Paulz, It might be abit safer in the future if the Shire carry out the proposed recommendations
Check this out: www.kalamunda.wa.gov.au/.../FINAL-Zig-Z ... tion-Plan. .
If they stop vehicle access on the lower section, that would be great.
Unfortunately, you cant stop some idiot cyclists riding 3 abreast or racing downhill around blind corners.
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby citywomble » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:20 pm

Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?


Providing you are on foot then yes, just beware of oncoming cars and bikes :)
On a bike, no. That's why it's been made one way, unlike a pedestrian you can't just step aside onto the verge or short cut at the bends.
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby rider_1 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:55 pm

What I did, it's going down the hill and climb up back via kalamunda road, because I don't feel safe doing it, it's so narrow, just in case there's a car from the top of the hill going down, there's no space for a bike hiding....
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby rider_1 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:58 pm

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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby sambo3 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:15 pm

I rode down last week and caught up with two guys behind a car also going down, they asked which way was it one way! (you would think they would know that before riding it).

Anyway the driver pulled over at a safe spot to let us pass and at the next bend a cyclist was coming up.

I don't think the driver would have been impressed after stopping to let us pass and then seeing a rider coming up the wrong way.


I would be pissed off if driving down there if a rider(s) were coming the other way.
If we want respect on the roads we need to show some as well.


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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby zues » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:14 am

Sambo3 wrote: I don't think the driver would have been impressed after stopping to let us pass and then seeing a rider coming up the wrong way.


I would be pissed off if driving down there if a rider(s) were coming the other way.
If we want respect on the roads we need to show some as well.

Its more likely the driver was pissed off with you speeding down the zig zag. Slow down and enjoy the view :!:
The zig zag isn't designed for speed.
Speedsters can always take Gooseberry Hill Road if they are in a hurry.
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby sambo3 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:36 am

Zues really,
Who said I was speeding?. I don't understand how you can make this assumption?
The driver was cruising down very slowly he was not in anyway annoyed by us.
He may have been sightseeing going down with the slow speed he was traveling.
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby Marty Moose » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:30 pm

Lol ride up it you will go slower :-P

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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby HappyHumber » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:50 pm

Careful.... you're getting into 'Middle East Peace Talks' territory with questions like this.
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby zues » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:32 pm

Anyway I think it would be great if all cyclists that use the zig zag respond to the Kalamunda feedback form. Closing the lower section of the zig zag to motorists would be great for all cyclists fast or slow.
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby blkmcs » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:01 pm

zues wrote:Anyway I think it would be great if all cyclists that use the zig zag respond to the Kalamunda feedback form. Closing the lower section of the zig zag to motorists would be great for all cyclists fast or slow.

I have driven the zigzags many times and have never seen any conflict between motorists and cyclists so why would closing the lower section to motorists be of benefit to cyclists?
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby zues » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:56 pm

blkmcs in answer:
If it becomes a no-go area for cars then Shire could paint a white line down the middle and allow cyclists to ride up the zig-zag. If they partition the road it would be safer for cyclists and walkers (provided you don't have too many Sambo3 types).
Likely to stop problems such as damage to vegetation by bush bashing - there has been more of this happening recently.
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby Tandem » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:22 am

zues wrote:Anyway I think it would be great if all cyclists that use the zig zag respond to the Kalamunda feedback form. Closing the lower section of the zig zag to motorists would be great for all cyclists fast or slow.


Why don't just leave it as it is, so everybody can enjoy ( car, bicycle, motorbikes etc ) the nice scenic drive down the zig zag.

I wonder what cyclist that use the zig zag to get up to Kalamunda would say, when they would come up against a car driver on the way down.

If it is one way, that means one way for everybody.
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby HappyHumber » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:04 pm

Here's the actual link to the Shire of Kalamunda Survey Page; Zig-Zag Scenic Drive: Have Your Say.

The organisers ask that before you complete the survey you have a read (or at least a good skim) of this : Zig-Zag Scenic Drive : Discussion Paper On Options & Possibilities (PDF Link)

Just doing my bit to help curb further aimless blather on here ;) Sheesh.. we might as well be on Facebook with all the teenagers and bored housewives the way some of you guys carry on together :P
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby casual_cyclist » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:22 pm

HappyHumber wrote:Here's the actual link to the Shire of Kalamunda Survey Page; Zig-Zag Scenic Drive: Have Your Say.

The organisers ask that before you complete the survey you have a read (or at least a good skim) of this : Zig-Zag Scenic Drive : Discussion Paper On Options & Possibilities (PDF Link)

Just doing my bit to help curb further aimless blather on here ;) Sheesh.. we might as well be on Facebook with all the teenagers and bored housewives the way some of you guys carry on together :P

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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby zues » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:14 pm

Bummer Happy Humber I thought we were all being calm and constrained.
You wrote: Here's the actual link to the Shire of Kalamunda Survey Page; Zig-Zag Scenic Drive: Have Your Say.

The organisers ask that before you complete the survey you have a read (or at least a good skim) of this : Zig-Zag Scenic Drive : Discussion Paper On Options & Possibilities (PDF Link)


No need to bovver if you bothered to read Rider_1's post as he has already posted the survey!

Just doing my bit to help curb further aimless blather on here ;) Sheesh.. we might as well be on Facebook with all the teenagers and bored housewives the way some of you guys carry on together :P
So Your contribution is a good example of aimless blather :P :?:
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby rider_1 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:35 pm

I reckon it's safer if this road is for walking and cycling only, as a tourist sight seeing, put some kind a pole as a blocker so big vehicle can't go in....
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby NASHIE » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:13 am

Spent my first 25yrs in Gooseberry Hill, 3 training/racing and never once rode up the zig zag, and can't remember ever riding down.......to much fun overtaking cars down Gooseberry hill :D . Would be really disappointed if cars were ever banned from the zig zag. We drive the kids down at least once a month on return from grandads/nanna's house in the evening......Its one of Perth highlights. Bring on the annual events that close the drive for the day like Targa West, Shire Market walk, Bike race etc, but to close it for a few 'soft' bike riders :wink: would be a real shame
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby rider_1 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:47 am

NASHIE wrote:Spent my first 25yrs in Gooseberry Hill, 3 training/racing and never once rode up the zig zag, and can't remember ever riding down.......to much fun overtaking cars down Gooseberry hill :D . Would be really disappointed if cars were ever banned from the zig zag. We drive the kids down at least once a month on return from grandads/nanna's house in the evening......Its one of Perth highlights. Bring on the annual events that close the drive for the day like Targa West, Shire Market walk, Bike race etc, but to close it for a few 'soft' bike riders :wink: would be a real shame


abit risky overtaking cars down Gooseberry Hill isn't it, they have a big power and big body, compare to us, only a leg and small bike...hehe...
it's better on walking or riding a bicycle enjoying zig zag than driving, the space is small for car....and can stop only at the hair pin....
but everyone has his own opinion...so be it...
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Re: Is it safe to climb on zig zag scenic drive kalamunda?

Postby NASHIE » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:54 pm

abit risky overtaking cars down Gooseberry Hill isn't it


Mmm....about as safe as trying to ride up a one way road :wink:
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