City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

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City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby Thoglette » Wed May 11, 2016 11:23 am

As part of the upgrade of Barrack St, William St between Murray and Hay was going to be made bus/taxi/bike only.

Anyone know what happened?
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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby Sinner » Wed May 11, 2016 1:26 pm

Approval from the City of Perth is a long time coming.....

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby Cycleops70 » Wed May 11, 2016 5:09 pm

Sinner wrote:Approval from the City of Perth is a long time coming.....


Perhaps it was away on (legitimate undeclared) business related travel?

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby rolandp » Wed May 11, 2016 9:54 pm

Link to PTA's update on this project which indicates it will be completed in 2015/16.

Title of this topic is not 100% correct, as copied from the above link 'William Street (between Murray and Hay streets only) will become an exclusive pedestrian/cycle/bus/taxi zone'. Even though PTA also calls it 'William St Bus Only Lane'.

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby roller » Thu May 12, 2016 10:52 am

Cycleops70 wrote:
Sinner wrote:Approval from the City of Perth is a long time coming.....


Perhaps it was away on (legitimate undeclared) business related travel?


LOLOL :lol:
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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby wellington_street » Thu May 12, 2016 11:02 am

Bye Lisa, Hello Reece = hello cycling infrastructure, hopefully.

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby SimoneF » Sat May 14, 2016 2:42 am

Are you serious? Awesome! Although if it is going to be shared with taxis, then don't expect the bike lane to be free (groan) I have noticed lately, due to Uber no doubt, a larger than normal number of taxis queuing up on the street restaurant/pub entry or exit, even some blocking lanes waiting for one to go off the rank at the front, there are so many and nowhere to stop!!

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby rolandp » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:43 am

William St was again mentioned in the Public Transport section of the 2016 Transport Plan
7.4.1 William Street between Wellington Street and St Georges Terrace is currently a high density corridor for the bus network, and will continue to grow, serving as a link between the new underground bus station and Elizabeth Quay Busport as well as a central bus hub for Perth centre. A Transit Zone including access for taxis and cyclists is proposed for William Street between Hay Street and Murray Street, which will see this central section of William Street devoid of general traffic, providing a reliable bus journey along this important central city corridor.

But given that the original 2015/16 completion date has lapsed, and the above does not provide a date, unknown when this will now occur.

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby Thoglette » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:51 am

rolandp wrote:William St was again mentioned in the Public Transport section of the 2016 Transport Plan


If it's in that plan then it's been consigned to the "after we're long gone" bucket.
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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby Thoglette » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:49 am

Almost a year on and no news
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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby rolandp » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:41 pm

You could consider filling in City of Perth's Share to Shape. Though it is unclear how another survey will help when there are already agreed projects which are failing to even start.
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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby Sinner » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:37 am

Agreed project? That's the problem with William Street - it's never been agreed.

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby Thoglette » Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:50 pm

Sinner wrote:Agreed project? That's the problem with William Street - it's never been agreed.


You seem to be correct: from the PTA William Street bus-only lane project page.
PTA wrote:Stage 3 - 2015-16
The PTA is in discussions with the City of Perth regarding Stage 3 of William Street bus-only lanes. Stage 3 would see William Street (between Murray and Hay streets only) become an exclusive pedestrian/cycle/bus/taxi zone. General traffic would not be able to enter this section of the street.


I guess the Mayor is a little distracted right now.
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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby rolandp » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:40 pm

Sinner wrote:Agreed project? That's the problem with William Street - it's never been agreed.

Given that there are three stages to the project, of which Stage 1 and 2 are complete, there would have been an agreed project plan. Just because it is not finished and there are now additional discussions on the scope of work for stage 3, unfortunately can occur.

Does not change the fact that the latest information we have is dates back to July 2015 found on William St bus only fact sheet.

I did find a correspondence with PTA dating back to Aug-2016
. At this stage no timeframes have been set for Stage 3 of the William Street bus-only works. The PTA continues to have discussions with the City of Perth regarding the final stage of the transit mall.

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby Scott_C » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:37 am

According to the CoP minutes the project was put to the Works and Urban Development Committee on the 22 March 2016 with an officer's recommendation that it be accepted based on meeting all of the Council's prior conditions placed on the works.

The councillors ignored the recommendation and deferred their decision, "to allow further information to be provided around the cost benefits that this proposal will bring to the City and the impacts that the City will encounter as a result of this proposal."

The deferral appears to be on-going, with (as far as my Google Fu can find) no further consideration of the project minuted by council.

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby Sinner » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:03 pm

Scott_C wrote:The deferral appears to be on-going, with (as far as my Google Fu can find) no further consideration of the project minuted by council.


Won't happen then!

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby wellington_street » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:26 pm

Any CoP residents on here? If yes, I'd suggest dropping a line to your Councillor and asking them to follow up

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby rolandp » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:06 am

wellington_street wrote:Any CoP residents on here? If yes, I'd suggest dropping a line to your Councillor and asking them to follow up

Done. I'm not a resident, but that shouldn't stop others as we all work/visit the Perth district.

I also followed up with PTA, who indicated:
.We are currently following up your query with the project team and will get back to you before the end of the week

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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby Thoglette » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:06 pm

rolandp wrote:
and will get back to you before the end of the week

Did they get back yet?
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Re: City of Perth - where is the non-bus ban on William Street

Postby rolandp » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:00 am

Thoglette wrote:
rolandp wrote:
and will get back to you before the end of the week

Did they get back yet?

Don't believe so, but this was 10 months ago and I couldn't quickly locate a email response.

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Postby Thoglette » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:17 am

Well with the Council being put to the sword, now might be a good time to harass the commissioners; the PTA; WestCycle; BWA and the papers that the PCC has failed to follow through on this.
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