driver stabs cyclist

[tallywhacker]

just another day on the roads.
After my last run in I have given up saying anything to the morons and will just be submitting the video to the hoon line (according to the police that is where we now submit 1m infractions)

[Nobody]

After my last run in I have given up saying anything to the morons...

Good move. Besides the danger, it's a waste of your riding time. I've had a "non-engagement policy" while riding for a number of years.

[Thoglette]

Make that one count of "Assault occasioning bodily harm", please Mr Policeman. Plus a few traffic offences and parking in a disabled spot (about $450) for good measure

[10speedsemiracer]

I commend you on your restraint. I can't say I would have been able to exercise the same control...

[Derny Driver]

I commend you on your restraint. I can't say I would have been able to exercise the same control...

I would have sat the fat punt on his backside, knife or no knife.

[10speedsemiracer]

fat punt

lol, fat punt.

[Cheesewheel]

I read elsewhere that police have video evidence of the altercation ... be interesting to see how this pans out when this POS finally gets hauled in .... I imagine he will lawyer up and hand himself in along with some lame "brain snap" excuse

[Bah77]

I read elsewhere that police have video evidence of the altercation ..

Its in the linked article, driver close passes cyclist, cyclist follows and almost runs into driver as he is getting out of the car while yelling at him. (he might have actually hit the driver with his bike)

Now obviously stabbing is waaaaay overboard, but the cyclist did himself no favours, wouldnt be surprised if the driver gets off with self defense.

[Cheesewheel]

I read elsewhere that police have video evidence of the altercation ..

Its in the linked article, driver close passes cyclist, cyclist follows and almost runs into driver as he is getting out of the car while yelling at him. (he might have actually hit the driver with his bike)

Now obviously stabbing is waaaaay overboard, but the cyclist did himself no favours, wouldnt be surprised if the driver gets off with self defense.

Injurying someone with a knife automatically ups the ante to weapons charges .... recall a similar incident a year or so back by a doofus standing off with what looked like a knife (actually a rope splicing tool so I think he dodged the whole weapons thing ... and of course he didnt actually come within striking distance of the cyclist)

[Mulger bill]

Two points
1 Don't escalate, blow kisses and hope they have an aneurysm
2 If it does get ugly, DISMOUNT! You can't use the bike as a shield or throw it when you've got your bum in the saddle

[cj7hawk]

I wonder if it will be taken all that seriously at all... WA Traffic Police don't like prosecuting people who run down cyclists, and my experience with them is that they often seem to hate cyclists as much as any other self-important motorists.

The hoon hotline on the other hand.... That's not handled by traffic police, but by real police... It's very effective at getting action taken. I'm glad they are the ones handling the new complaints system.

David.

[cj7hawk]

Some of these? LoL!




or this maybe?

[Scott_C]

The West is reporting that assault and traffic charges have been laid against the driver:
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/driver-s ... b88720702z

He might still try to fight the charges with a claim of self-defence but, from my understanding, the fact that he armed himself and got out of his vehicle (leaving a place of safety) should make self-defence a difficult argument to win.

[Cheesewheel]

The West is reporting that assault and traffic charges have been laid against the driver:
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/driver-s ... b88720702z

He might still try to fight the charges with a claim of self-defence but, from my understanding, the fact that he armed himself and got out of his vehicle (leaving a place of safety) should make self-defence a difficult argument to win.

Judging from the video it doesn't appear that the cyclist was stabbed ... seems like more of a discussion with a troll who is equally brazenly oblivious to the consequences of obesity as well as brandishing a knife in public.... but nonetheless, the moment someone pulls a knife in an altercation is the moment that police are forced to scrutinize the event, no matter how much they hate cyclists. Maybe there is further footage where he gets more psycho ....

[방구 똥]

You can get a knife from wiggle http://www.this link is broken.au/nordisk-titanium-knife/

[Thoglette]

.... but nonetheless, the moment someone pulls a knife in an altercation is the moment that police are forced to scrutinize the event,

Based on the last time this happened he might be charged with "carrying a weapon in public". Assault seems to require that the assaulted party lodge a complaint.

[ColinOldnCranky]

I commend you on your restraint. I can't say I would have been able to exercise the same control...

I would have sat the fat punt on his backside, knife or no knife.

In a sense you have just justified the action of the 76 year old.

Put yourself in the position of being 76. A 52 year old male on a bike is highly likely to be able to do you serious harm. And you have no idea of the guys state of mind, but he HAS just bailed you up for whatever reason.

That 76 year old is most likely very vulnerable to an attack by a 52 year old - Hell, I was only two years out of basketball at that age. But as your statement attests, there are plenty of tools out there who are just as likely to throttle a 76 year old. Your approach certainly doesn't sound like the alternative, to indulge in reasonable and controlled discussion.

I suggest that should you ever take on a 76 year old for whatever reason, then you are part of the problem.

[ColinOldnCranky]

I commend you on your restraint. I can't say I would have been able to exercise the same control...

I would have sat the fat punt on his backside, knife or no knife.

In a sense you have just justified the action of the 76 year old.

Put yourself in the position of being 76. A 52 year old male on a bike is highly likely to be able to do you serious harm. And you have no idea of the guys state of mind, but he HAS just bailed you up for whatever reason.

That 76 year old is most likely very vulnerable to an attack by a 52 year old - Hell, I was still pumping weight and only two years out of basketball at 52. But as your statement attests, there are plenty of tools out there who are just as likely to throttle a 76 year old. Your approach certainly doesn't sound like the alternative, to indulge in reasonable and controlled discussion.

I suggest that should you ever take on a 76 year old for whatever reason, then you are part of the problem.

[10speedsemiracer]

I commend you on your restraint. I can't say I would have been able to exercise the same control...

I would have sat the fat punt on his backside, knife or no knife.

In a sense you have just justified the action of the 76 year old.

Put yourself in the position of being 76. A 52 year old male on a bike is highly likely to be able to do you serious harm. And you have no idea of the guys state of mind, but he HAS just bailed you up for whatever reason.

That 76 year old is most likely very vulnerable to an attack by a 52 year old - Hell, I was only two years out of basketball at that age. But as your statement attests, there are plenty of tools out there who are just as likely to throttle a 76 year old. Your approach certainly doesn't sound like the alternative, to indulge in reasonable and controlled discussion.

I suggest that should you ever take on a 76 year old for whatever reason, then you are part of the problem.

Er, he pulled a knife....

So if I'm out riding, nearly get side-swiped into the flora whilst being accompanied by my wife/daughter/any other, then attempt to raise the driver's awareness of his behaviour which results in being threatened with a knife, the knife-wielder is the victim (?). My argument is that a 76yo should know better, and that the rider would have no way of knowing how old, feeble or decrepit the driver was at the time. His experience was a near-miss, and then a verbal altercation involving some knife-brandishing.

And that is why I commended OP on his restraint.

[Cheesewheel]

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/shock ... p99t4.html

Here is the previous incident .... once again in WA

(They must put something in the tap water....)

[ball bearing]

The driver threatened the cyclist by the punishment pass and the brake check. The cyclist had every right to speak his mind man-to-man. The motorist assaulted him again with the knife - he obviously keeps it handy. I don't believe that the culprit's age has any bearing on the material facts. How was the cyclist to know that the person who threatened him and attacked him with a knife was 76 - what difference does it make? There is no fool like an old fool. I wager that angry little man has spent his whole life playing the idiot the ocker thug.

[Bah77]

How was the cyclist to know that the person who threatened him and attacked him with a knife was 76

Maybe assess the situation before you ram someone with your bike? If he had stopped a couple of meters short he would have seen the guys age, and possibly the knife

[ball bearing]

Maybe assess the situation before you ram someone with your bike?

Was he charged with assault for the alleged deliberate action?

[NASHIE]

Cant see how a close pass should be taken as a green light to start a physical interaction. Intentionaly riding your bike into anyone (young or old) as they are existing their car is poor form. Im sure rider will do things differently next time.
Will be interesting to see if driver is charged with the close pass.

[Bah77]

Maybe assess the situation before you ram someone with your bike?

Was he charged with assault for the alleged deliberate action?

So if he wasnt charged then he did nothing wrong? Interesting take, i wonder how that logic would go on certain other threads in this forum.

You dont think if the cyclist had stopped a couple of meters away he could have seen the knife and the gentlemans age?