I really couldn't believe my eyes when strolling about the SJS website, to see that they have this old stove for sale. All new and updated!
I still have my old one from the 70s (the Optimus 8R) and it still works a treat. Been threatening to take it out on a camping tour sometime. Now maybe I can without being seen as an old fuddy duddy
Old camp stove reborn
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Old camp stove reborn
Postby il padrone » Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:50 am
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Re: Old camp stove reborn
Postby redned » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:14 am
I had one for years and used it cross-country skiiing, tramping in NZ and overseas car touring. It was a terrific piece of work. Only problem was that it ran on Shellite, which I couldn't always get, esprcially overseas.
Unfortunately it was stolen from my house in Darwin some years ago. The low-life that stole it probably didn't know what it was or how to use it and threw it out.
Mine had all-brass tank and fittings.
Unfortunately it was stolen from my house in Darwin some years ago. The low-life that stole it probably didn't know what it was or how to use it and threw it out.
Mine had all-brass tank and fittings.
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Re: Old camp stove reborn
Postby Mike Ayling » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:31 am
The model that I have does not have a pump and after pre heating the jet with metho you simply open the valve and stand clear!
Boils a lot quicker than a Trangia but I am in no hurry these days when cycling so I use the Trangia.
But in cold wet conditions there is an advantage in getting your hot drink or meal a lot quicker that the Trangia can manage.
Mike
Boils a lot quicker than a Trangia but I am in no hurry these days when cycling so I use the Trangia.
But in cold wet conditions there is an advantage in getting your hot drink or meal a lot quicker that the Trangia can manage.
Mike
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Re: Old camp stove reborn
Postby il padrone » Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:50 pm
Yes, mine has no pressurising pump and is all-brass. I eventually did the pre-heating with small fuel pellets, for greater safety.Mike Ayling wrote:The model that I have does not have a pump and after pre heating the jet with metho you simply open the valve and stand clear!
Boils a lot quicker than a Trangia but I am in no hurry these days when cycling so I use the Trangia.
The Trangia doesn't heat very quickly at all in very cold conditions, nor at altitude, so the shellite stoves are better for those situations. Also shellite has a greater energy-density, so less is needed for longer trips.Mike Ayling wrote:But in cold wet conditions there is an advantage in getting your hot drink or meal a lot quicker that the Trangia can manage.
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Re: Old camp stove reborn
Postby hartleymartin » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:25 pm
I still like my soft-drink-can stove (50ml of metho and away you go!) I use an old milo tin lid as a primer pan. Burns nice and hot for about 7 minutes (boils water in about 4), although you can't really control the heat. Be prepared to work fast with eggs and bacon, and I have to work out a better way to cook sausages with it.
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Re: Old camp stove reborn
Postby il padrone » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:43 pm
How much water?hartleymartin wrote:I still like my soft-drink-can stove (50ml of metho and away you go!) I use an old milo tin lid as a primer pan. Burns nice and hot for about 7 minutes (boils water in about 4),
If it's a litre, you'd better market that stove! Generally shellite stoves take ~3 mins to boil 1L, while the Trangia takes at least twice that time.
http://adunk.ozehosting.com/trangia.html
Another interesting review of several stoves, with features, boiling times and fuel consumption. I now know why I love my MSR Pocket Rocket iso-butane canister stove - 3:15 mins and 10g of fuel .Conclusions:
Gas stoves are apparently able to boil a litre of water in 3-6 minutes (depending on the stove). Trangia stoves (which burn methylated spirits) take around 9-10 minutes from a cold-start. The second litre boiled takes significantly less time on a warm stove. So, Trangia's are slower, but certainly not painfully so.
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Re: Old camp stove reborn
Postby hartleymartin » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:12 am
Not sure how much it is... about enough for 3 mugs of tea, or a packet of noodles, or a bowl of soup usually.il padrone wrote:How much water?hartleymartin wrote:I still like my soft-drink-can stove (50ml of metho and away you go!) I use an old milo tin lid as a primer pan. Burns nice and hot for about 7 minutes (boils water in about 4),
If it's a litre, you'd better market that stove! Generally shellite stoves take ~3 mins to boil 1L, while the Trangia takes at least twice that time.
I don't think I'll be able to market them, considering that they are made out of rubbish and take almost zero skill to make.
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Re: Old camp stove reborn
Postby RosscoG » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:20 am
People have marketed them.
Just garage setups as far as I know but, making some really nice little stoves and yes, still out of old cans. Green sells.
Community based tweaking has brought them a long way in effectiveness too.
I had one for a while, although I'm not really into the super light trekking type gear as I was generally camping out while working.
What I have found much more usefull.... ok, more fun, is a gasifying camp stove. Again, made out of scrap materials.
More recently I have been working on one that can operate for hours untended with only several handfuls of small sticks and stuff that not only cooks dinner, but is a mini power plant for the camp site. Lighting and charging of all those mod cons for the next day.
Just garage setups as far as I know but, making some really nice little stoves and yes, still out of old cans. Green sells.
Community based tweaking has brought them a long way in effectiveness too.
I had one for a while, although I'm not really into the super light trekking type gear as I was generally camping out while working.
What I have found much more usefull.... ok, more fun, is a gasifying camp stove. Again, made out of scrap materials.
More recently I have been working on one that can operate for hours untended with only several handfuls of small sticks and stuff that not only cooks dinner, but is a mini power plant for the camp site. Lighting and charging of all those mod cons for the next day.
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