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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:52 pm
by rifraf
Wingnut wrote:Maybe consider trying a different set of handlebars that redistribute the weight in your hands?

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Hiya
Interesting bars :!:
Where did you spot these Wingnut :?:

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:59 pm
by il padrone
They're made by this crowd, Jones Cycles. Loop bars, also the H-bar, but they're not cheap :shock:

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:07 pm
by rifraf
il padrone wrote:they're not cheap :shock:

I almost hesitate to thank you for the link :shock:
A warning to be seated next time please :!:

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:07 pm
by Baalzamon
SJScycles has a model from Jeff Jones and they are half the price as well

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:37 pm
by RonK
il padrone wrote:They're made by this crowd, Jones Cycles. Loop bars, also the H-bar, but they're not cheap :shock:

You not wrong there IP - $425 is the quote for that particular bar shipped to Brisbane.

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:22 pm
by Wingnut
RonK wrote:
il padrone wrote:They're made by this crowd, Jones Cycles. Loop bars, also the H-bar, but they're not cheap :shock:

You not wrong there IP - $425 is the quote for that particular bar shipped to Brisbane.


I was quoted $162.95 including postage for the loop bar aluminium version...

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:33 pm
by rifraf
RonK wrote:
il padrone wrote:They're made by this crowd, Jones Cycles. Loop bars, also the H-bar, but they're not cheap :shock:

You not wrong there IP - $425 is the quote for that particular bar shipped to Brisbane.


Ronk did you spot my post (back a page) on some new rohloff shifter options? :?:

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:35 pm
by Baalzamon
rifraf wrote:HI everyone,
sorry if this has already been posted elsewhere (please let me know so I can delete it if it has).
I thought the Rohloff fans and owners might be interested in these links if they aren't already aware of them.
Hopefully this is helpful
" if people are intersted in alternative shifters:
http://www.mittelmeyer.de/Fahrradteile/ ... ohloff.htm
http://www.mittelmeyer.de/Fahrradteile/ ... lenker.htm

There's another one pictured in the current CTC mag:
http://www.gillesberthoud.fr/anglais/fi ... cle=134GB2\ "
I spotted these links at the online Moulton forum, of whom a fair few are IGH fans. :)


The beauty of the standard twist shifter is that you can change more than one gear if you so desire instead of clicking up through the gears or through 2-4 gears at a time instead of potentially coming to a stop in 14 oops I need 8 and shift to 8 very very quickly.

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:39 pm
by il padrone
The beauty of a couple of those links is they are Rohloff shifters for road bike handlebars, including some drop-bar brifters for Rohloff :wink:

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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:50 pm
by rifraf
The links caused a bit of a stir on the Moulton website and I remembered there were a few riders here
whom are Rohloff fans/users so decided to post.
I'm happy with Sram Dualdrive myself currently but if I was to change its likely it would be in
the Rohloff direction. :)

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:07 pm
by Max
Rifraf, thanks for the link! I think this will be a source of much discussion for dropbar riders who are considering a Rohloff hub :D

Max

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:15 pm
by rifraf
Max wrote:Rifraf, thanks for the link! I think this will be a source of much discussion for dropbar riders who are considering a Rohloff hub :D

Max

Cheers Max,
often when I post something like this I'm behind the eightball and it turns out to be yesterdays news.
Glad I'm on the money this time :D

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:43 pm
by RonK
rifraf wrote:Ronk did you spot my post (back a page) on some new rohloff shifter options? :?:

No, I missed it - that thumb shifter does look interesting. Here is a translated link, for those who have no German.

Thanks rifraf

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:49 pm
by il padrone
Ewen Gellie has made a rather nice drop-bar road bike with the earlier version of the Mittelmeyer shifter (a twist-shift, on the tops)

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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:08 pm
by Wingnut
RonK wrote:
rifraf wrote:Ronk did you spot my post (back a page) on some new rohloff shifter options? :?:

No, I missed it - that thumb shifter does look interesting. Here is a translated link, for those who have no German.

Thanks rifraf



That'll make a few people happier when it comes to handlebar choice! :wink:

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Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:55 pm
by Wingnut
Hey il padrone,

How long did it take for your Rohloff hub to be delivered from Bike24 once ordered online?


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Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:06 pm
by il padrone
It took quite a while - about 7 weeks if I recall. Ordered late November, arrived about 10 Jan. But not Bike24's fault. It was caught up in the delays of the very heavy winter snowstorms in Europe last December.... then the Christmas mail rush.

It was a bit disappointing I didn't have it for our summer tour, but overall I didn't mind - was willing to wait.

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:21 pm
by rifraf
Hi Wingnut
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
I think I remember Starbike and Bike24 using German DHL and being very slow.
I looked back to an old post of mine in the "I want a new headlight - dynahub" thread and seeing:
rifraf wrote:Ok everything arrived on Thursday the 30th which is basically 29 days from woe to go.
Much longer than I ever want to wait again for anything.

I remember seeing other posts in other threads bemoaning ze Germans pedestrian mailing services.
Bottom line is dont hold your breath.
They were also very slow to add info to the tracking service.
It was my first internet buy and drove me even nuttier by the time it had arrived.
When I do some decent tours I'm going to write them up as "Craziest Guy on a Bike" and put it
down to the excess frustration of waiting for my Sondelux dynohub to turn up from Germany.
The savings are worth the wait and you just have to put it out of your mind until it arrives.
Very hard for me with them having my funds for a dynamo hub and Edelux headlight but I imagine
even harder for you with a cool 1K in change being on the other side of the world.
Still plenty here can attest to "It will arrive" so keep yourself busy whilst you wait. :D

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:29 pm
by il padrone
Yes, I'd been checking the tracking and just before Christmas it was still showing the hub at Stuttgart airport and I'd spoken to Bike24 about it. They were prepared to wait until end Jan and then they'd send me out another :shock:

In early Jan it was still listed at Stuttgart, then suddenly it was on my doorstep :? Go figure ??

Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:41 pm
by RonK
We have been spoiled by exemplary service from Wiggle and the Royal Mail. As I recall my Rohloff took around three weeks to arrive from Bike 24, and an order from Starbike took even longer.

BTW - if you a planning to build your own wheels as I did, then you may find this inexpensive booklet on wheel building useful. It's a very practical rather than theoretical guide which even shows you how to construct your own wheel building tools.

And a couple of other tips:
- since you have purchased from Bike24 the manual will be in German. You can download the English version or order a hardcopy from the Rohloff site
- Robin Thorn advised me to disregard the instructions on page 55 and to cross the spokes over the hub cap fixing screws.

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:56 am
by Baalzamon
Wingnut wrote:Hey il padrone,

How long did it take for your Rohloff hub to be delivered from Bike24 once ordered online?


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Took 3-4 weeks for me to get it, there was no snow problems for me then :)

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:17 pm
by rifraf
Wingnut wrote:I was quoted $162.95 including postage for the loop bar aluminium version...


Great looking bars with great range of hand positions but half a kilo of weight? (Loop H) :cry:
Whilst I'm not looking for super fly for my bike 500g has made me stop and take a breath :!:
I don't think my current Reynolds 753 flat bar would come too close to that even with its bar ends.
Definitely a very attractive bar mind you...........half a kilo? :cry:
I wouldnt call myself a weight weenie as I only just took off my Brooks B73 but thats some weight to add. :|

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:48 pm
by Wingnut
rifraf wrote:
Wingnut wrote:I was quoted $162.95 including postage for the loop bar aluminium version...


Great looking bars with great range of hand positions but half a kilo of weight? (Loop H) :cry:
Whilst I'm not looking for super fly for my bike 500g has made me stop and take a breath :!:
I don't think my current Reynolds 753 flat bar would come too close to that even with its bar ends.
Definitely a very attractive bar mind you...........half a kilo? :cry:
I wouldnt call myself a weight weenie as I only just took off my Brooks B73 but thats some weight to add. :|


Hmm? If you compare the bars to a flat bar there is quite a bit more length in total so logically it would weigh more.

Touring bikes weigh so much anyway (well mine does :wink: ) I wouldn't consider the weight an issue. I'd be more worried about strength & durability. The loop on the front is intended to support lights, front bags etc.

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:44 am
by RonK
Wingnut wrote:Touring bikes weigh so much anyway (well mine does :wink: ) I wouldn't consider the weight an issue.

I've never been able to understand this line of thinking - if your bike is already heavy, surely you would want to avoid making it any heavier?

Re: Thorn Raven Nomad coming together

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:18 am
by Wingnut
RonK wrote:
Wingnut wrote:Touring bikes weigh so much anyway (well mine does :wink: ) I wouldn't consider the weight an issue.

I've never been able to understand this line of thinking - if your bike is already heavy, surely you would want to avoid making it any heavier?


I have no intention to make the bike heavier, I think it's just a matter of compromise between weight, performance & durability. For me, touring long km's makes fit & durability a priority.

Q. Why are you using a heavy Rohloff Speedhub? A. Because it is durable and cost effective in the long term.

A lighter drivetrain could be installed for less money...