Not exactly the same, as my mate had had it for a year or so, but essentially it functioned the same. A simple USB plug-in device like that one.Aushiker wrote:Was that an Elite modem?il padrone wrote: We used a Telstra broadband modem and had reception for this everywhere we had mobile phone reception.
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Postby RonK » Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:01 pm
I think you underestimate the capabilities of the humble netbook - mine did all that while on tour. A second battery would have extended its usefulness to around 20hours. Used with care it is surprising how little time it takes to upload and edit a few photos, write up a daily journal entry and upload it, even make a quick call home. Save the big photo and video edits and web surfing for when electricity and internet are available.Dragon wrote:However if you (and this is what I had in mind) go on months-long biking trips where you also bring your passport because need to cross international border, and a major fraction of your
time, you find yourself in the middle of no where (like the mountain of mongolia, the rice villages in Asia, or the mountain village people in Vietnam) and you need to update your blog, or some other online social network, email or for some reasons you need all the data (video, pictures.. ) on your laptop. In this situation, the net book is rather limited.
In these remote regions you speak of, if there is no electricity then it's unlikely there will be any internet anyway.
My final fallback for keeping my journal is - a pen and notebook.
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Postby Aushiker » Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:48 pm
Have you used the Extender on solar power? I am just a little worried it will not charge quick enough to keep at least the Edge 800 alive.KenGS wrote:Sorry - senior moment I've got the Pedalpower+ Universal cable - not the Super-i-cableAushiker wrote:Thanks Both as in?KenGS wrote:I got both. Problem solved.
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And I've got the Garmin Extender.
I normally connect the Garmin Edge to the PP+ and use the Extender to recharge my mini-DVR. After using the Extender I recharge it using the PP+ then swap it back to the Garmin Edge.
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Postby Aushiker » Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:51 pm
Cool. Seems to work okay for you and Pete so that decision can be ticked offRonK wrote:That's the one I have - an Elite, and an external antenna was supplied with it. Fallback is to tether my iPhone, but it's never been necessary.
With respect to your Asus eee PC 1005 HA do you recall the specs of yours? SSD or HD? 1 or 2 GB ram?
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Postby KenGS » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:21 pm
Not in any serious way - the solar panel only has 1W output max. The battery has 11Wh capacity so takes at least 11 hours to recharge off solar.Aushiker wrote: Have you used the Extender on solar power? I am just a little worried it will not charge quick enough to keep at least the Edge 800 alive.
On the other hand, my Garmin 705 draws only about 0.3W.
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Postby Aushiker » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:52 pm
Okay. I must check the specs of the Edge 800.KenGS wrote:Not in any serious way - the solar panel only has 1W output max. The battery has 11Wh capacity so takes at least 11 hours to recharge off solar.Aushiker wrote: Have you used the Extender on solar power? I am just a little worried it will not charge quick enough to keep at least the Edge 800 alive.
On the other hand, my Garmin 705 draws only about 0.3W.
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Postby Aushiker » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:58 pm
Getting back to the netbook ... bit of exploring on the net and I found a couple of cheaper new units at Jb Hi-Fi which puts in context the price to pay for second hand units.
One is a eMachines EM355 (Acer) which looks good at $244 as it has a Atom N570 dual core processor. No SSD of course at this price but 250 GH HD.
The other one is a Asus EEE PC R011PX at $253 but it has an older processor type.
BTW what do you think is a reasonable second hand price, say using the EM355 as benchmark for a new unit?
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It has 2gb RAM and a HDD - 120gb I think.Aushiker wrote:With respect to your Asus eee PC 1005 HA do you recall the specs of yours? SSD or HD? 1 or 2 GB ram?
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Postby RonK » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:10 pm
I'm also intending to use my iPhone 4 for navigation and as my cycle computer, although I will continue to carry a laptop. I suggest you consider the Biologic Reecharge. BioLogic is a Dahon brand of cycling accessories and components designed for urban mobility.Wingnut wrote:I ended up using an iPhone 4 for everything (photos, email, calls, Skype, TomTom GPS etc). Obviously I could charge it via the USB in my stereo but what I discovered was I really didn't need to take the Mac along. Next time I tour on my bike I plan to hopefully get a water resistant cover for it & charge through my front dynamo hub...
I have the Reecharge and the iPhone case. This should allow me to run the iPhone all day and listen to music while navigating. The Reecharge is supplied with a selection of adaptors for iPhone, Sony Ericsson, Samsung, Nokia (newer models), Motorola (Mini USB), and the charge-in adapter. As you would expect from a Dahon product, the quality is excellent and the design is innovative but well thought out.
The Bike Brain app is one of the sharpest looking bike computers I've seen on the App Store.
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An iphone on my bike would be awesome, I'm still trying to get my head around spending so much on a Rohloff Speedhub first!
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Postby Dragon » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:37 am
net book because I have never seen any Solar Pannel that I can trust it will charge a net book and at the same time be small enough to strap on to your bike.
I have seen manny solar products and a few of them claim to charge net book or even laptop, but don't be fooled. You can tell the claim is BS just by the size of the pannel.
For example there is no way the gorilla pannel will charge a net book. Also that product does not say anything about what voltage or wattage it produce. It did not give any
dimension of the pannel so I am extremely skeptical. If the scale in the picture is right, this pannel is not big enough. A 20W pannel has a particular size and there is no way
the Gorilla pannel is 20W. Please do some research and be careful when you pick out a solar product. Manny times it is not plug and play and you may need extra stuff that
you do not anticipate.
So I agree the best solution is to bring a few extra batteries.
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Postby il padrone » Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:21 am
From their specifications PDF:Dragon wrote:For example there is no way the gorilla pannel will charge a net book. Also that product does not say anything about what voltage or wattage it produce. It did not give any
dimension of the pannel so I am extremely skeptical.
So, by my minimal knowledge of electricity, it seems to be about 10W output, with a 500mA limit. Also the dimensions are there too :Output capacity
500mAh (AT) 20V
500mAh (AT) 5V
Doesn't state whether this is open or closed, but using proportions I'd say it's when closed, so the panel size must be about 200mm x 500mm.• Unit dimensions: 264 x 200 x 19mm
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Postby il padrone » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:20 am
Beware, that Acer EM355 has only a 3-cell battery, so its battery life will be much shorter. Many netbooks have only a 3-cell battery, giving 4-5 hr charges. My Toshiba has a 6-cell battery to give a 9 hr charge.Aushiker wrote:Hi
Getting back to the netbook ... bit of exploring on the net and I found a couple of cheaper new units at Jb Hi-Fi which puts in context the price to pay for second hand units.
One is a eMachines EM355 (Acer) which looks good at $244 as it has a Atom N570 dual core processor. No SSD of course at this price but 250 GH HD.
The other one is a Asus EEE PC R011PX at $253 but it has an older processor type.
BTW what do you think is a reasonable second hand price, say using the EM355 as benchmark for a new unit?
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Postby Dragon » Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:43 pm
il padrone wrote:From their specifications PDF:Dragon wrote:For example there is no way the gorilla pannel will charge a net book. Also that product does not say anything about what voltage or wattage it produce. It did not give any
dimension of the pannel so I am extremely skeptical.
So, by my minimal knowledge of electricity, it seems to be about 10W output, with a 500mA limit. Also the dimensions are there too :Output capacity
500mAh (AT) 20V
500mAh (AT) 5V
Doesn't state whether this is open or closed, but using proportions I'd say it's when closed, so the panel size must be about 200mm x 500mm.• Unit dimensions: 264 x 200 x 19mm
il pdrone,
Thanks for posting those numbers. I was looking for them. The amazon site I was using did not list any of these.
From the numbers you listed, it says that when you put this pannel out in the sun, the output voltage will vary
between 5V and 20V depending on Sun condition; And the output will be around 0.5Amps. So the output power
is somewhere from 2.5Watts to 10Watts. From these number, I will say it will definitely Not power up even a net book.
It may not even charge net book directly (even when powered off). The best that you can do with this is to charge a
12V battery with the help of a solar controller and have the battery charge the net book powered off. But it is
more efficient to have the battery charge a net book or laptop battery externaly using an external laptop battery
charger. Note: at 500mAh, the rate of charge is rather slow (16 hours). Also you will reallize that you will need to buy a 12V battery
pack, a solar controller. It's getting to be quite expensive.
There are a lot of reviewers at Amazon, complaing about this product, and rightfully so. I own several solar
arrays so I had gone through the frustration and bad experience that some other people had. Solar products
are nortoriously missleading. They do not have good instruction and they do not tell you what you need to make
it work.
The dimension of this pannel look almost like you can attach it to one side of the bike, but it's still too
big. I was thinking, if you can find a flexible, foldable solar array of similiar size and Voltage and Amps
ratting, you can buy two of those and attach them to both sides of your bike (on second thought it's too big).
By connecting them in parallel, you can charge a laptop battery externally in 8 hours. It is quite an
expensive option. If you consider any expensive solar array product make sure you take a lot of time,
reading all the reviews, sending the reviewers email asking questions, searching youtube for demo of the
product, call the seller and ask how it work; ask if you need charge controller and battery pack. But on
second thought some times these people don't know !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !!. It is rather expensive and you don't want to buy it
and had to return it.
The bottom line is I would not buy this charger if I want to charge a net book.
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Postby rustguard » Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:03 pm
yeah good point mac is for people who like to spend money on stuff you can get for free.nasigoreng wrote:the biggest con by apple was to say geeks use macs! last time I looked they were all linux...
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excellent plan, though plenty of foto editing in linux probably gimp ships with ubuntu. Think ubuntu ships with libreoffice now? could be wrong.Aushiker wrote:I would do something along the lines you do, but would run Ubuntu as my OS with OpenOffice and probably just save/upload the photos for further editing on my Mac once I am home.
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Postby Aushiker » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:14 pm
Yes this seems to be a pretty common standard, so need to either factor in the cost of a 6-cell battery or find a netbook that comes with one.il padrone wrote:Beware, that Acer EM355 has only a 3-cell battery, so its battery life will be much shorter. Many netbooks have only a 3-cell battery, giving 4-5 hr charges. My Toshiba has a 6-cell battery to give a 9 hr charge.
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Postby Aushiker » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:26 pm
Just picked up a brand new sealed in its packet Telstra 3GB Prepaid Modem for $65.10 delivered. Can't complain about that. 33% discountAushiker wrote:Cool. Seems to work okay for you and Pete so that decision can be ticked offRonK wrote:That's the one I have - an Elite, and an external antenna was supplied with it. Fallback is to tether my iPhone, but it's never been necessary.
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Postby RonK » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:16 pm
Yeah, bargain - and prepaid is good, pay only for what you use.Aushiker wrote:Just picked up a brand new sealed in its packet Telstra 3GB Prepaid Modem for $65.10 delivered. Can't complain about that. 33% discount
Here is a link to the model comparison chart for Asus eee PC. The 1005 HA is still in the model lineup, and there are a number of other models with long-life 6-cell batteries. Most models are available with GNU Linux, which should ensure you are up and running immediately with all the necessary drivers etc. According to the features page, Open Office is bundled with Linux systems. The 1000 is offered with Linux and 40 gb flash storage which may be a little limiting. Personally I'd have no reservations about getting a HDD model - I've had no hint of a problem with mine.
I carry my eee PC in a Case Logic Netbook case - it's been updated since I got mine, but the changes are superficial. I carry the power pack separately so as not to create a pressure point. The case fits nicely in the inner mesh pocket of an Ortlieb Front Roller.
I note you have been looking for second-hand machines, but new prices are low enough to be justifiable.
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Postby Aushiker » Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:10 pm
A little update ... picked up today a brand new Asus R051PX (red) which has a Intel Atom N570 dual core processor, 320 GB hard drive and a 56wh 6 cell battery (claimed 11 hours). I had the ram upgraded to 2 GB and got an extra year of warranty (send in for a replacement unit) (cost $20). The total package is $478.00 but thanks to the joys of salary packaging the cost will be $267.25 which is pretty good for the system. Purchased it from Dick Smith.
Will have to wait a month to get my "hands on it" properly as it is now become a birthday present which reduces the cost heaps more
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Postby RonK » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:01 pm
Good choice I think. The touchpad looks a bit wider than on my 1005 HA, which was the feature I liked the least. However you may still want to consider a tiny Belkin travel mouse.Aushiker wrote:A little update ... picked up today a brand new Asus R051PX (red) which has a Intel Atom N570 dual core processor, 320 GB hard drive and a 56wh 6 cell battery (claimed 11 hours).
A bonus is that the power cord is compatible with my camera battery charger so only one power cord is required, and since the eee has an SD card slot there is no need to carry a camera cable to upload photos.
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Postby Aushiker » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:23 pm
Price was pretty much in line with other N570 models that I say with the exception of the Acer Aspire which was $100 cheaper (not sure about the battery but). I was not impressed with this model as it was made of plastic/plastic if you no what I mean. The Asus seems quite a decent package.RonK wrote:Good choice I think. The touchpad looks a bit wider than on my 1005 HA, which was the feature I liked the least. However you may still want to consider a tiny Belkin travel mouse.
With regards to the mice, I have a little one, actually two of them, so will use one of those. Probably not as small as the Belkin but still fairly small.
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