Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
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Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby elStado » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:32 pm
What is the best way to keep my tyres nicely inflated while on the road? I have a Vivente World Randonneur which currently has a pair of 35x700c Schwalbe Marathon tyres rated at 60-85 PSI, I usually have them at around 80 PSI for the rear tyre and 75 on the front. They, like most tyres, deflate over time and I usually top them up using my Serfas floor pump once a week to the desired level.. Otherwise I notice the bike start to feel sluggish after 2-3 of weeks if they haven't been done. The VWR has pump peg mounting points on the underside of the top tube which would be the best place for a classic long pump.
A quick forum search on the topic revealed that the Zefal HPX pump is one of the favourites for tourers. However I am having issues finding a place that stocks this pump and will ship to Perth. Can anyone reccomend a place where I can get one of these pumps, or alternatively recommended another pump suited for touring?
Thanks
ED: The Freedom Machine seem to stock the HPX for $50 + $10 shipping. Can I get it cheaper any where else?
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby il padrone » Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:48 pm
I ask because ever since I have changed back to Presta I have noticed that my tyres hold pressure for a considerably longer time period. I rarely feel the need to check/top up my tyres on any tour under 2-3 weeks. Mostly I use the stand pump at home and I've not used the Lezyne Road Drive more than twice, for very minor top-ups, in 6-8 months. I run 26x175" Vittoria tyres, at 60-70psi.
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby gururug » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:02 pm
Probably worthwhile discussing what ones do best. I've got tyres that last two weeks and ones that are lucky to last two days......go figure.....
85 shouldn't be hard to get with a hand pump. You're touring so there is no big rush like on a commute.
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby elStado » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:22 pm
Presta. I haven't had these long so not sure how long they hold a decent amount of air. I know my Vittoria Hyper City tyre on my other bike will lose around ~5 PSI a week which is pretty good considering it still rolls pretty nicely on 70 PSI and it easily holds 85 PSI. I'll be touring for around 4 weeks in Europe, so I guess it would be a fair call that I could just go into a bike shop every 2 weeks and top the tyres up.il padrone wrote:Schraeder or Presta valves?
I also have an adapter for presta valves so you can pump them up from servo air pumps - not ideal for common use but another option while on the road or for emergencies.
Another reason it would be good to have a decent pump with me on tour is to re-inflate the tyres if I get a puncture while on the road. Would rather not have to push a full loaded touring bike a few km through town with a flat tyre trying to find a bike shop. It'd destroy the tube completely, and probably the tyre too.
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Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby Max » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:46 pm
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby elStado » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:05 pm
Ah. I should have checked before saying anything. I haven't needed to pump it up yet and just assumed it would be presta given that these valves are pretty much the standard.Max wrote:The VWR comes with schraeder tubes. Obviously, the rims have been drilled to accommodate the wider diameter. Can a presta tube be used in a rim that's been drilled for schraeder?
A little bit annoying actually, given what was said about presta holding air better, I have a few spare tires.. all in presta, and also that my pump is set up for presta as my other bike uses presta.. a bit of a chore.
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby il padrone » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:18 pm
Not normally, you'll risk tube rupture at the valve. You can get a washer/insert that you fit over your valve stem for this purpose however.Max wrote: Can a presta tube be used in a rim that's been drilled for schraeder?
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby RonK » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:23 pm
Yes Max, if you use these special spacers.Max wrote:The VWR comes with schraeder tubes. Obviously, the rims have been drilled to accommodate the wider diameter. Can a presta tube be used in a rim that's been drilled for schraeder?
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby RonK » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:33 pm
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby il padrone » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:43 pm
Just get some inserts and fit them, el Stado. Presta valves are a fair bit easier to put air into as well, IME.elStado wrote:A little bit annoying actually, given what was said about presta holding air better, I have a few spare tires.. all in presta, and also that my pump is set up for presta as my other bike uses presta.. a bit of a chore.
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby elStado » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:54 pm
Yeah I'll look into it. Just a matter of finding them somewhere and getting them shipped here.il padrone wrote:Just get some inserts and fit them, el Stado. Presta valves are a fair bit easier to put air into as well, IME.elStado wrote:A little bit annoying actually, given what was said about presta holding air better, I have a few spare tires.. all in presta, and also that my pump is set up for presta as my other bike uses presta.. a bit of a chore.
Had a look on ebay, they aren't cheap for two machined bits of alloy.. http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from ... Categories
I'll order these, swap over the tubes and keep the shraeder tubes as spares.
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby Aushiker » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:31 am
I have an earlier Lezyne floor drive pump like Ronk on one bike but I mount off to the side of a bidon. On the Surly Long Haul Trucker I have a Topeak Turbo Morph. I like it as a gauge, well both pumps do. Handy for getting the pressures right when I change from bitumen to dirt and vice versa.RonK wrote:I use an earlier version of the Lezyne Floor Drive, and check tyre pressures once a week on tour.
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby rifraf » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:50 pm
I got the High Pressure version as opposed to the High Volume one - also available.
Seems to work great.
Like Ronk, I keep mine in a bag/pannier to keep frame clutter to a minimum.
Mine does seem to have an issue with the guage.
It sticks at 60psi before jumping to 80psi.
Its niggles me, as I would like to keep my bikes tyres at 65-70psi.
Being currently presta valve I cant just stop at the local servo to check.
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby Slim » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:30 pm
http://adaptrac.com/
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby rkelsen » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:47 pm
Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. I ordered (and paid for) an HPX from them and was given the run around for about 2 months. Then one day I received a full refund with no explanation. Not an entirely bad outcome, but I don't think they'll be able to get an HPX for you even though it is listed on their website.elStado wrote:A quick forum search on the topic revealed that the Zefal HPX pump is one of the favourites for tourers. However I am having issues finding a place that stocks this pump and will ship to Perth. Can anyone reccomend a place where I can get one of these pumps, or alternatively recommended another pump suited for touring?
Thanks
ED: The Freedom Machine seem to stock the HPX for $50 + $10 shipping. Can I get it cheaper any where else?
If you want an HPX, the best option is probably eBay. I ended up settling on a Park Tools PMP-5 which isn't bad, but I think I'd prefer something a bit more rugged if I were taking it on tour. I also have a Lezyne Steel Floor Drive track pump, and highly recommend it. I'd have to say that Lezyne probably make the best pumps currently available.
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby elStado » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:11 pm
Thanks for the info. I just had a quick browse on ebay and there's a few HPX pumps listed, however they are ~$40 plus $40 shipping... might have to keep looking or look elsewhere.rkelsen wrote:Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. I ordered (and paid for) an HPX from them and was given the run around for about 2 months. Then one day I received a full refund with no explanation. Not an entirely bad outcome, but I don't think they'll be able to get an HPX for you even though it is listed on their website.elStado wrote:A quick forum search on the topic revealed that the Zefal HPX pump is one of the favourites for tourers. However I am having issues finding a place that stocks this pump and will ship to Perth. Can anyone reccomend a place where I can get one of these pumps, or alternatively recommended another pump suited for touring?
Thanks
ED: The Freedom Machine seem to stock the HPX for $50 + $10 shipping. Can I get it cheaper any where else?
If you want an HPX, the best option is probably eBay. I ended up settling on a Park Tools PMP-5 which isn't bad, but I think I'd prefer something a bit more rugged if I were taking it on tour. I also have a Lezyne Steel Floor Drive track pump, and highly recommend it. I'd have to say that Lezyne probably make the best pumps currently available.
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby wombatK » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:01 pm
Just be aware that most servo's now have digital tyre inflators that max out at 60 psi. 60 psi might be goodelStado wrote: I also have an adapter for presta valves so you can pump them up from servo air pumps - not ideal for common use but another option while on the road or for emergencies.
for a limp home mode.
But the ones I've tried didn't work with the presta valve adaptors. Not sure if it was because the end of the presta valve didn't make the same fit with the inflator head as the center pin in a shraeder valve, or something else.
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby elStado » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:53 am
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Re: Options for keeping tyres inflated while touring?
Postby il padrone » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:01 am
I would never go on any sort of extended tour without a pump. I don't even go on day rides or commutes without one! Even with excellent tyres that have not had a puncture for many years, you still need to be able to top up the tyres every week or so. Stuffing your tyres with grass really doesn't work too well.elStado wrote:I was originally not going to bother with bringing a pump, but the more I think about it the more I would like the convienience and security of having a capable pump with the bike at all times while touring.
Best pump really is the Zefal HPX, but sadly no longer available. If you find one in a bike shop's NOS bin, or on ebay, grab it. Failing that I now use a Lezyne Road Drive - it's OK but really a bit too small in volume. I may get myself the Lezyne Micro Floor Drive - a bit similar to the Topeak Road Morph but better constructed I think. It comes in two versions - HV for up to 90psi, or HP for up to 160psi. I'd probably go for the HV for touring tyres.
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