Surly Ogre as a tourer
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:13 am
I've been having thoughts about getting something a bit more suitable for offroad touring than my trusty (and slightly rusty) Moulton APB.
I'd like to hear thoughts/opinions on the Surly Ogre as what I know about frame geometry could be written on a matchhead.
I've picked up that long chainstays and wheelbases "can" equate to loaded stability but thats about where my knowledge starts to fizzle.
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The Long Haul Trucker didnt put a gleam in my eye although I've no doubt its a capable machine.
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I see the Ogre shares a similar wheelbase (in size L) but is 4cm shorter and its chainstays are approx 29mm shorter.
If they were both 26 inch wheeled I'd think that the Ogre might be slightly more lively because of this but I suspect this would be negated by its larger 29 inch and heavier wheels.
The Troll is also on the shortlist to be considered but at this stage I'm probably leaning towards the larger wheeled Ogre due
to my thinking it although heavier and slower accellerating, a more comfortable and forgiving ride.
Much as I like the look and what I've heard about the Thorn Nomad, I'd currently struggle to pay for the quality of component build that the Surly would afford me.
I'm thinking of a disk braked setup with no suspension fork.
As the Ogre/Troll are extremely versatile in regards to drilled for lots of hub, pannier rack and fender options they appear much easier kitted out and potentially easier maintained which is my preference.
What are your thoughts?
I'd like to hear thoughts/opinions on the Surly Ogre as what I know about frame geometry could be written on a matchhead.
I've picked up that long chainstays and wheelbases "can" equate to loaded stability but thats about where my knowledge starts to fizzle.
http://surlybikes.com/bikes/ogre" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Long Haul Trucker didnt put a gleam in my eye although I've no doubt its a capable machine.
http://surlybikes.com/bikes/disc_trucker" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I see the Ogre shares a similar wheelbase (in size L) but is 4cm shorter and its chainstays are approx 29mm shorter.
If they were both 26 inch wheeled I'd think that the Ogre might be slightly more lively because of this but I suspect this would be negated by its larger 29 inch and heavier wheels.
The Troll is also on the shortlist to be considered but at this stage I'm probably leaning towards the larger wheeled Ogre due
to my thinking it although heavier and slower accellerating, a more comfortable and forgiving ride.
Much as I like the look and what I've heard about the Thorn Nomad, I'd currently struggle to pay for the quality of component build that the Surly would afford me.
I'm thinking of a disk braked setup with no suspension fork.
As the Ogre/Troll are extremely versatile in regards to drilled for lots of hub, pannier rack and fender options they appear much easier kitted out and potentially easier maintained which is my preference.
What are your thoughts?