New Vivente - I am excited

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Re: New Vivente - I am excited

Postby rifraf » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:59 pm

ridingboots wrote: Ask me about horses and that is different matter.


Shallots or brown onions?
How many cloves of garlic to the pound?
Served with salad or roasted veggies?
Red wine or white?

Yes I'm in one of those moods today.......
and I'm a bit peckish :)
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Re: New Vivente - I am excited

Postby ridingboots » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:19 pm

Hahaha Rifraf

Hope you planning on eating young one other wise bit tough or maybe you should slow cooked :wink:

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Re: New Vivente - I am excited

Postby rifraf » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:32 pm

Congrats on the Vivente.

I think you'll enjoy it.

So much of the considerations are already taken care off for you and its only personalising it and the odd tweak that you might decide to do.

You can now concentrate on the touring instead of mucking about with an unsuitable bike for touring trap that it might have been easy to fall into whilst trying to save the pocket.

Enjoy :)
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Re: New Vivente - I am excited

Postby ridingboots » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:12 am

Thank You Rifraf

Hardly a thing that needs modifying but will have lots of fun in the mean time

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Re: New Vivente - I am excited

Postby geoffs » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:09 pm

Thats really good that you're exited.
We were touring in Tassie recently and one of the guy's that we were riding with had a Vivente with the rohloff hub and gates belt drive. We were amazed that it weighed nearly as much as our steel tandem with S&S couplers. I think he said it was around 18kg with pannier racks. It felt nearly the same as our tandem when i picked them up. The vivente must be loads of fun in the hills
I recently built up a Habanero Ti touring bike for my wife to use as a commuter which weighs 8.5kg without pannier racks. It does have a 1x11 Sram groupset but changing it to a 2x11 wouldn'e add that much weight. It was custom made for her measurements and not an off the shelf bike. Much cheaper than a Vivente

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Re: New Vivente - I am excited

Postby ridingboots » Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:51 pm

I would not know the first thing about setting up a bike hence puchasing the Vivente.

They little heavy but still great quality

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Re: New Vivente - I am excited

Postby robbo mcs » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:05 pm

geoffs wrote:Thats really good that you're exited.
We were touring in Tassie recently and one of the guy's that we were riding with had a Vivente with the rohloff hub and gates belt drive. We were amazed that it weighed nearly as much as our steel tandem with S&S couplers. I think he said it was around 18kg with pannier racks. It felt nearly the same as our tandem when i picked them up. The vivente must be loads of fun in the hills


FWIW the vivente with rohloff and belt drive weighs 16kg as delivered in my frame size. I also have a 7.5kg road bike. The road bike goes up hills easier for sure. Both are great bikes, built for a purpose, which they do very well. Both are equally fun to ride in different ways.

It would be easy to take weight out of the Vivente if you wanted to. Take off the kick stand, the steering stabiliser, the dynamo hub and lights, the extra accessory bar, put on lighter tyres and seat. With that you would be looking at 2-3kg guesstimate. However, that would be defeating the purpose of the bike. Kind of like putting racks, dynamo and kickstand on the road bike :roll:

For me, if I am touring, carrying gear or it is wet I take the Vivente. If I am going out to attack a PB time up a hill I take the road bike. If I am going for a sunday morning solo sightseeing ride I can choose to take either, which is a good choice :D Lately it is often the VWR because I just find it a delight to ride :D

Congrats to the OP on your new bike, I understand your excitement :wink:

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Re: New Vivente - I am excited

Postby Bobsled » Mon May 01, 2017 8:12 am

First time writer, long time follower.

Ridingboots, I am glad that you are happy with you new Vivente.

My partner purchased a 2017 Gibb 8 weeks ago, and like you, she was very excited to start touring on this bike. Unfortunately, our experience with the bike and Vivente has been very disappointing.

After only a couple of weeks the brake line had to be replaced as it had a kink in the line where it left the lever as it had been cut too short during the assembly process. The LBS that I purchased the bike from quickly fixed this issue. A couple of weeks later whilst touring around Tasmania, I noticed that the shifter lever had been sliced open by the steering stabiliser mount. I notified my LBS and Vivente to inform them of the issue. The LBS was happy to look at the issue, but Vivente was not convinced that it was an issue. This has still not been resolved due to the other major issue below.

Upon taking the bike to my LBS, they informed me that a number of bikes with the Rohloff hub had left the Vivente assembly factory without having had the oil added to the hub. This was extremely disappointing, as when we received the bike, I phoned Noel at Vivente to confirm if oil had been added to the hub during the bike assembly process – I was informed that it had. The LBS was not concerned about this issue, even though the Rohloff warranty was very clear about oil needing to be added before use. I have sent emails to Vivente to try to discuss this issue, but have had no response. I had one very brief conversation with Noel over the phone, and after I requested a new hub, he hung up on me. The hub has now done over 900km with no oil in it. I am very concerned that this will seriously impact on the reliability and longevity of the hub. After all, this is one of the reasons for purchasing a Rolloff hub.

After contact my LBS about wishing to exchange the hub out, Vivente agreed. However, it has been left to me (and not the LBS) to send the wheel back. I have sought clarification on what the timeframe for the return of the wheel will be (we head to Europe in 4 weeks for a month long tour), if oil will be added to the hub, will a warranty card come with this new hub and if the hub will be returned to me or the LBS. Neither Vivente nor the LBS have been able to answer any of these questions. I am very concerned that I will post the wheel off and no replacement will arrive before we leave for Europe. This would then totally wreck our cycle touring trip. Also, Vivente have insisted that I not even post the wheel until later this week.

If you have recently purchased a Vivente 2017 with a Rohloff hub, please get in contact with your LBS to confirm that oil was added to the hub. If they are unsure, insist on an oil change to give you peace of mind and to reduce the possible negative impact of damaging the hub.

Thoughts on how I go about getting a replacement wheel/hub in time for our trip away?

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Re: New Vivente - I am excited

Postby rifraf » Mon May 01, 2017 1:31 pm

Thats extremely disappointing to hear for many reasons.

I hope you have a positive outcome.
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Re: New Vivente - I am excited

Postby ridingboots » Mon May 01, 2017 11:34 pm

Hi Bobsled

I am sorry to hear of your experience with Vivente and hopefully it all resolved soon as like me I would think you purchased on the excellent reviews the Viventes seem to have and value for money.

Unfortunately my budget did not allow me to purchase a Gibb but it was on my wish list. I will definitely keep an eye out for any other issues and contact Vivente and LBS if I have any problems.

So far I have only done two rides on the Viv and no issues so far. Only had a clicking noise which I think was a pedal and hopefully have resolved.

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