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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Rob74 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:42 pm

Hi,

"Opportunity presents itself" to purchase a "Retro Steel Framed Bike" stickers claim it is a "Miyata".
=>> But...I'm a little skeptical as to whether it is a genuine Miyata (maybe a wanna bee racer has removed identifying stickers etc so that it might...on first glance.... be considered a "Team Miyata".

The Serial Number format does not line up with:
Miyata Serial Nos

=>> there is no alphabetical letter at the start of the serial No.
=>> The serial Number located on the non drive side of the "Seat Tube" just above the bottom bracket.
? Does anyone know....
a) Is the http://vintagemiyatabicycles post correct re Miyata Serial Numbers starting with an Alphabetic prefix indicating the year?
b) Where is the serial number supposed to be on a Miyata Frame....is the location non drive side of the "Seat Tube" just above the bottom bracket correct?

Referring to:
1993 Miyata Cat
"Pg25" which is Pg 27of 32 of the electronic file

Specs are very similar to a 1993 "FIVE 12" - 14 Speed
=>> But Color is Dark Grey & Mauve. Fork is Dark Grey
Frame ? CrMo no Sticker
Fork Unicrown ? CrMo but no Sticker (Unrelated damaged "SILCA" Sticker on Fork)
Stays Forged Ends - BUT no provision for rear axle alignment grub screws.
Dual H20 Mounts
Crank 300Ex Bio (Egg shape) 52 42
Rear Der - Shimano Exage 300Ex
Front Der - Shimano Exage 300Ex
Shifters - Down Tube Mount Shimano Light Action & SIS 7Sp
Brake Levers - Shimano Exage
Brakes - Shimano 300Ex
Rims - Velocity Deep V Australia Made 32 Spoke (Suggest after market Retro fits)
Front Hub - Shimano 105
Rear Hub - Shimano RX 5000
7Sp close ratio cluster

Weight 11kg on Park Tools Scales

Other oddities...
Handle bars are cheap plain steel
Head set looks cheap and nasty chrome steel ie not Shimano or sealed unit that I would have expected on a quality bike.

c) Did the Miyata "FIVE 12 14 Speed earlier or later than 1993 equivalent" come in "Dark Grey fork & front 1/2 of bike" & "Mauve seat tube, seat stays & chain stays" two tone Paint?
d) What diameter seat post should a "FIVE 12 14SPeed earlier or later than 1993 equivalent CrMo Miyata" have?

Comments/thoughts appreciated.

Thanks,

Rob
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby munga » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:19 pm

was hoping to win this damaged bike by seller: rosehipcollectibles2

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PURSUIT-ROAD ... 686wt_1399

checked bids and saw user r****n has bid on almost all of sellers items, including completed listings..
not suss at all, right?

hope nobody from here got sucked in.

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby munga » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:33 pm

pitty43 wrote:Thanks all for your help. Better change my Gumtree add now.

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Stuey » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:04 pm

munga wrote:was hoping to win this damaged bike by seller: rosehipcollectibles2

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PURSUIT-ROAD ... 686wt_1399

checked bids and saw user r****n has bid on almost all of sellers items, including completed listings..
not suss at all, right?

hope nobody from here got sucked in.

"it's ok everybody, captain internet is here!"


Hmmmm, and he's pushing it up. What made you suspicious?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby familyguy » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:12 pm

munga wrote:was hoping to win this damaged bike by seller: rosehipcollectibles2

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PURSUIT-ROAD ... 686wt_1399

checked bids and saw user r****n has bid on almost all of sellers items, including completed listings..
not suss at all, right?

hope nobody from here got sucked in.

"it's ok everybody, captain internet is here!"


I take it from your questions that you've picked up the frame is a bin job, not a salvageable job?

Jim
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby familyguy » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:17 pm

Rob74 wrote:Hi,

"Opportunity presents itself" to purchase a "Retro Steel Framed Bike" stickers claim it is a "Miyata".
=>> But...I'm a little skeptical as to whether it is a genuine Miyata (maybe a wanna bee racer has removed identifying stickers etc so that it might...on first glance.... be considered a "Team Miyata".

...

Rob


Is it on ebay now? There's a 56cm Miyata on ebay currently, may be genuine. Miyata did make a few models with unicrown unholiness, but the Team aint one of them!

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Rob74 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:47 pm

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"Is it on ebay now? "

=>> No

"Miyata did make a few models with unicrown unholiness,"

=>> Agreed I do dislike unicrown on a psuedo Retro Bike

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Dan » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:55 pm

munga wrote:dan prices are going up!

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/windsor/ ... 1009226939


discounts for bulk purchasing :)
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby munga » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:00 am

familyguy wrote:
munga wrote:was hoping to win this damaged bike by seller: rosehipcollectibles2

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PURSUIT-ROAD ... 686wt_1399

checked bids and saw user r****n has bid on almost all of sellers items, including completed listings..
not suss at all, right?

hope nobody from here got sucked in.

"it's ok everybody, captain internet is here!"


I take it from your questions that you've picked up the frame is a bin job, not a salvageable job?

Jim


yeah i wanted the stem, Jim.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby sunho » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:16 pm

Rob74 wrote:Nishiki

Rob


Rob,
Interesting bike..

I saw the EXACT same one 2 weeks ago, serial : SR9030168
I did some digging and the previous seller bought it for 270, sold it for 337.50... not to the guy selling it now so i am very confused... is there a bicycle double???!!!?!!

curious to know what this one will go at..
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Rob74 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:38 pm

sunho » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:16 pm
Interesting bike..

=>> Probably not for me. 63cm (25") frame required + its in QLD
.....but with the Ultegra components it could make a worthy donor & then flip the frame.

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby familyguy » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:35 pm

Roadies are cheap compared to some of these going around: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mongoose-Sup ... 558wt_1186

8)

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby ldrcycles » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:52 pm

WOOOOOW. I'm not interested in BMX but that is very special.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby grantw » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:23 am

To compliment your vintage mongoose you will probably want a vintage cobra
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:26 am

familyguy wrote:Roadies are cheap compared to some of these going around: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mongoose-Sup ... 558wt_1186

8)
Jim

"This is going straight to the pool room" :)

No bloody kids will ever get to jump gutters on that bad boy.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Dan » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:37 am

singlespeedscott wrote:No bloody kids will ever get to jump gutters on that bad boy.


Made a jump from bedding sand once - wet down to give it a crusty shell. You can imagine how that ended.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby frailer5 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:55 am

familyguy wrote:Roadies are cheap compared to some of these going around: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mongoose-Sup ... 558wt_1186

8)

Jim


No argument there. :shock: Valuations are a crap shoot, to use an American term.
This little Fuji has reappeared after some weeks.Just fell off/no bids at just sub-four hunnerd. Now re-listed as per link. My diminutive female work colleague was interested, but now another (equally diminutive) friend of hers is interested. OK, I'm fishing for opinions a bit. I reckon in current market it's a mid-200s bike. Thing is, it's on the Insular Peninsula, so an easy pickup for her. (SatNav's been a boon for those poor people. Rumour has it there are several dozen at any one time driving aimlessly anywhere south of Warringah Mall. :( )
And what's with that long stem? :|
... oh, gotta hate those ugly reflectors. maybe it's subliminally putting people off. :lol:
Well, no, it's not a pushbike, otherwise I'd be pushing it...
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby find_bruce » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:18 pm

frailer5 wrote:Valuations are a crap shoot, to use an American term.
This little Fuji has reappeared after some weeks.Just fell off/no bids at just sub-four hunnerd. Now re-listed as per link. My diminutive female work colleague was interested, but now another (equally diminutive) friend of hers is interested. OK, I'm fishing for opinions a bit. I reckon in current market it's a mid-200s bike. Thing is, it's on the Insular Peninsula, so an easy pickup for her. (SatNav's been a boon for those poor people. Rumour has it there are several dozen at any one time driving aimlessly anywhere south of Warringah Mall. :( )
And what's with that long stem? :|
... oh, gotta hate those ugly reflectors. maybe it's subliminally putting people off. :lol:

But it comes with a "spear tire in a bag under the seat" that's got to be worth at least a extra hundred :wink:
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby familyguy » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:08 pm

That Fuji has been up four or five times, coming down from $400 in very slow movements. I reckon mid-$200's is about right for that. The Cyclone parts on it were decent enough. I've learned via a few web resources that Fuji built some quality frames that flew well under the radar.

And here's the bike: http://www.classicfuji.com/ClubFuji_1986_Page.htm You can see it's basically catalogue condition, even the bar tape and straps! I don't know what the 449 refers to, but it's probably 'new price' in '86.

VALite frame info: http://www.classicfuji.com/1986_30_Fram ... 1_Page.htm & http://www.classicfuji.com/1986_31_Fram ... 2_Page.htm

The Classic Fuji website is a great resource.

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby frailer5 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:48 pm

Thanks. And just tongue-in-cheek about the Northern Beaches, really.. :wink:

pretty kool Fuji kats...

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby grantw » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:19 pm

Boggles me that a 26 year old bike can look that new. Makes that Mongoose from this morning look used.

I expect you'll be rebuilding the bearings and replacing the rubber before you can ride it too far though, so $200 would be my stingy limit.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby frailer5 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:21 pm

find_bruce wrote:But it comes with a "spear tire in a bag under the seat" that's got to be worth at least a extra hundred :wink:


... maybe she's a Kiwi... :|
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby munga » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:32 pm

munga wrote:was hoping to win this damaged bike by seller: rosehipcollectibles2

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PURSUIT-ROAD ... 686wt_1399

checked bids and saw user r****n has bid on almost all of sellers items, including completed listings..
not suss at all, right?

hope nobody from here got sucked in.

"it's ok everybody, captain internet is here!"


i sent seller the following question

hey, who's the bidder with 556 feedback points, bidding on every one of your auctions including the completed ones?



after having her and her son's account suspended i get a reply from the seller:

hi, forgive the lateness of my reply. in answer to your question, that would be my son. we are both hoarders and often try to best each other in auctions. i know he gets a buzz when from time to time he wins an auction of mine at a price i had previously refused to sell it to him for. by reporting us to ebay you have successfully crippled our accounts. it seems like a fairly diligent endeavor on your part against total strangers, i trust you gained from the exercise in some way, as for us, without the extra income from ebay, the holidays are now looking bleak. regards, k.


to which i replied

wow, you really spent some time thinking that one up. unfortunately, you broke ebays policy, and if you did that at a property auction for example, you'd be in court faster than you could *********.
******** and your dodgy activity.
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