Ricardo Appreciation Society
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby bowie » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:02 pm
The first road bike I had ever actually ridden. (at 24years of ago ) Previously I had a host of mountain bikes with what I thought at the time were "proper" wheels
Anyway.. This thing started what I know label my obsession with cycling. It was ridden to uni, band practice to and from work, it was a great ol' thing.
we fitted a computer we got from somewhere and took much joy in being able to crack 60km/h on the down ramp onto the bypass Tehehe . Ahhh its back with my flat mates father now in Sydney..
Shame really.. would have made a great SS.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby singlespeedscott » Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:17 pm
Wow.
Big difference in feel going from Columbus SLX frame and fork to Tange Champion 5 frame and Tange Cr-mo fork. There is little compliance in the fork and I think a frame like this is calling out for some 32mm tyres. As for the brakes . I have to say that Shimano has come a long way in brake design in the last 30 years, the old 600's are more a speed reducer rather than a brake. Here is some piccies, excuse my crap photography skills and filthy garage .
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby Minority » Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:27 pm
It has a Tange Champion No2 frame (made in Australia according to the sticker), full Shimano 600 group and Araya 700c wheels.
I have threatened to clean it up for him to see if he can still ride it!!
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby Thoglette » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:01 pm
It's in be-a-utiful condition - compared to mine of the same age which are, ahem, "well loved".Minority wrote:My brotherinlaw has a Ricardo Nouvo and it is a classic "garage queen", I doubt that it has been ridden more than five times and most of those would have been just round the block.
It has a Tange Champion No2 frame (made in Australia according to the sticker), full Shimano 600 group and Araya 700c wheels.
I have threatened to clean it up for him to see if he can still ride it!!
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby Minority » Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:09 pm
Thoglette wrote:It's in be-a-utiful condition - compared to mine of the same age which are, ahem, "well loved".Minority wrote:My brotherinlaw has a Ricardo Nouvo and it is a classic "garage queen", I doubt that it has been ridden more than five times and most of those would have been just round the block.
It has a Tange Champion No2 frame (made in Australia according to the sticker), full Shimano 600 group and Araya 700c wheels.
I have threatened to clean it up for him to see if he can still ride it!!
Yes, it wouldn't take much cleaning to make it just about pristine, a great buy if he decides to sell it.
(or give it to me, it would fit (but I've got way too many bikes anyway, just not in that condition))
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby Verbs & Nouns » Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:34 pm
*Which I no longer own.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby moog » Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:34 pm
I appreciate any assistance.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:00 am
Google "cyclomondo" (sp)? They do lots, may have Ricardo.
Cheers
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Postby Thoglette » Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:48 am
With all the pace of an Ent on Valium, I've made a decision. Finally.Verbs & Nouns wrote:My Ricardo ....which I no longer own.
I'm not going to repair my 53cm/21" Ricardo Nuovo with-the-bent-forks (see page 1 of this thread). Nor am I going to build up the matching 62cm/25" Ricardo Nuovo.
One is too small, one is too large. And neigher have eyelets for fenders and rack, which I've become quite fond of on my 23" Gordonson. Which fits but is mild steel, intended for 27" tyres and rather rusty. Rusty even by the standards of my in-need-of-an-acid-bath-and-respray Ricardos.
Which leaves me with a hodgepodge of '50s, '80s, '90s and naughties bits looking for a frame.
So I'm about to (in my own good time) try swap one or both of these for a single 23" CroMo frame, preferably fully lugged and equipped with a complete set of eyelets. If it was a mixte I'd be estatic. It'll end up as a non-historic daily rider so I'm not after a concours contender. Being lazy I'd rather not have to strip/swap BB and/or head sets.
I'm pretty brand agnostic but figured the Perth based Ricardo mob might appreciate the heads-up.
Yours, moving veeery slowly.
Thog.
Ps. I don't believe George has anything like this in stock.
pps Yes, dear moderators, I will Xref the member-to-member thread when I get around to posting it. Don't be hasty!
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby bowiesimon » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:52 pm
Have just purchased a classic old Ricardo frame. Can anyone give me a rundown on basic stats for these beauties? I need BB size, cranks as standard and also recommended ratios (I was thinking 46/17) for setting it up as a fixie.
Any advice or opinions welcomed....
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby Thoglette » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:17 am
The ones I've had were all "standard" - that is, English BB and 1" threaded headset. Shimano 600 was standard equipment for the Tange 2 frames.bowiesimon wrote:Have just purchased a classic old Ricardo frame. Can anyone give me a rundown on basic stats for these beauties? I need BB size, cranks as standard and also recommended ratios (I was thinking 46/17) for setting it up as a fixie.
Gear ratios are up to your legs (and hills). But if it's a full Tange frame, please resist the urge to remove shifter lugs etc !
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby bowiesimon » Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:42 pm
Thanks for the info Thoglette - why the comment about removal of the shifter lugs etc? I know many fixie / single retro rebuilds are doing that these days to give a cleaner look. Any reason why you asked that? Are you after a frame yourself?Thoglette wrote:The ones I've had were all "standard" - that is, English BB and 1" threaded headset. Shimano 600 was standard equipment for the Tange 2 frames.bowiesimon wrote:Have just purchased a classic old Ricardo frame. Can anyone give me a rundown on basic stats for these beauties? I need BB size, cranks as standard and also recommended ratios (I was thinking 46/17) for setting it up as a fixie.
Gear ratios are up to your legs (and hills). But if it's a full Tange frame, please resist the urge to remove shifter lugs etc !
Bowie
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby HappyHumber » Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:34 pm
Bowie - I think I can speak for Thog here; there's an bit of an ill feeling towards people whom make modifications to classic old frames - just in for the sake of fashion. If the bike is ever to be restored, or updated with more modern running gear, shaving the bosses, guides & hanger off make it a pain in the bum, necessitating taking the frame to a builder to re-add stuff removed.bowiesimon wrote:Thanks for the info Thoglette - why the comment about removal of the shifter lugs etc? I know many fixie / single retro rebuilds are doing that these days to give a cleaner look. Any reason why you asked that? Are you after a frame yourself?
My daily rider is a Ricardo Viva - FG conversion I stil even have the shifters mounted on mine. Fashioned be buggered.
If you insist on shaving things off your bike do it to some old generic Taiwanese plain gauge boiler pipe wonder. This description may possibly may even include some of the lower entry level Ricardos, but if you have a nicer example - they're worth keeping as is. I am sure Ricardo were one of the last big Aussie names who did any reasonable scale of production domestically.
Hit me up via the BNA dm; I'll get an alert. If y'know, you know.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby Thoglette » Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:53 pm
The Humber's pretty much got it covered - the better frames deserve a little reflective contemplation.bowiesimon wrote:Thanks for the info Thoglette - why the comment about removal of the shifter lugs etc? I know many fixie / single retro rebuilds are doing that these days to give a cleaner look. Any reason why you asked that?
It'd be a bit like dechroming a Alfa GTA to give a cleaner look. (Or drilling the forks of a classic track bike to fit brakes).
You just want to understand what you're doing before you do it.
Which doesn't rule out a fixed or SS conversion - they are damn good frames.
Always Currently running a Malvern 1-star and it's not the same as my old Nuovo.bowiesimon wrote: Are you after a frame yourself?
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby il padrone » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:05 pm
I thought this was the definition for a RicardoHappyHumber wrote:do it to some old generic Taiwanese plain gauge boiler pipe wonder.
Ooowwooooooow!!! What's that baying I hear?
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby bowiesimon » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:02 am
Howdy Humber - I totally get you. No problems. Ok, I just picked up the frame, and apart from some surface rust spots that will come off easily, it's in great nick. I've sent a message to that Cyclomondo dude to see if I can get a replacement set of decals. The bike is the Ricardo Racemaster model. I'm about to go photograph and measure it, and will post shortly.HappyHumber wrote:
Bowie - I think I can speak for Thog here; there's an bit of an ill feeling towards people whom make modifications to classic old frames - just in for the sake of fashion. If the bike is ever to be restored, or updated with more modern running gear, shaving the bosses, guides & hanger off make it a pain in the bum, necessitating taking the frame to a builder to re-add stuff removed.
My daily rider is a Ricardo Viva - FG conversion I stil even have the shifters mounted on mine. Fashioned be buggered.
If you insist on shaving things off your bike do it to some old generic Taiwanese plain gauge boiler pipe wonder. This description may possibly may even include some of the lower entry level Ricardos, but if you have a nicer example - they're worth keeping as is. I am sure Ricardo were one of the last big Aussie names who did any reasonable scale of production domestically.
If anyone has a contact for an original (or suitable retro fit) set of forks - I'd love to hear from them!!
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby bowiesimon » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:03 am
*lol* Nice sledge!!il padrone wrote:I thought this was the definition for a RicardoHappyHumber wrote:do it to some old generic Taiwanese plain gauge boiler pipe wonder.
Ooowwooooooow!!! What's that baying I hear?
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby bowiesimon » Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:15 pm
Here she is - fresh out of the car, straight from Ebay - cost me the princely sum of $5.25.
The strange thing is it cost me more than that to travel up and down Eastlink from Frankston to Upwey to pick her up! Go figure.....
Anyway - the measurements are:
Top stem from seat to headstem: 53cms
Seat to BB stem: 58cms
Head stem to BB stem: 59cms
Model: Ricardo Racemaster - no other distinguishable descriptions
Bike features: pump brackets, but no cable lugs on top stem
My summary: good bargain for $5, but a s***load of work ahead on my time off.
Question - what have people found is the best way to remove the surface rust? I was thinking of starting with really good clean, then a mild steel wool? It's gonna need a complete powder coat and new decals, so the paint is superfluos!
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby bowiesimon » Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:20 am
To post pics: go to: www.photobucket.com
Craet a free account and then upload your pics, and access the direct link code - voila!!
Let me know if you need help.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby brendan03 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:24 pm
Please let me know how you go with this. I'm quite interested in "Ricardo" & "elite" decals.bowiesimon wrote:I've sent a message to that Cyclomondo dude to see if I can get a replacement set of decals.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby bowiesimon » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:06 pm
Will do - no word in response as yetbrendan03 wrote:Please let me know how you go with this. I'm quite interested in "Ricardo" & "elite" decals.bowiesimon wrote:I've sent a message to that Cyclomondo dude to see if I can get a replacement set of decals.
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