Ricardo Appreciation Society
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Ricardo Appreciation Society
Postby munga » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:29 pm
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby drubie » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:16 pm
Ah, Ricky Ricardo. Man his hair was slick.munga wrote:GO
but really, that's rubbish. We get none of it because the choices are illusory.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby nickobec » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:35 am
Did Ricardo make their frames here in Australia from Tange tubing?
I had assume by the sometime in 70's they moved their production offshore like almost everybody else.
I say Ricardo Elite, because when I acquired it, the paint job was a pale purple undercoat applied with a brush and no stickers or identifying marks. (other than tange headset, bb, suntour GT dropouts and serial L6A####
The frame, the braze ons particularly gear changer stud are identical to Rustychisel's departed Ricardo Elite and Brendon03's Elite and this time the serial numbers is very similar L1T####. Brendon's Elite has no Ricardo badging, but the similarities to Rustychisel's including placement of the Elite stickers makes it likely it was a Ricardo in it's former life, prior to the "new" forks.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby singlespeedscott » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:39 am
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby nickobec » Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:00 pm
Just that Brendon03 said mine and his where different forks, and mine had matching suntour GTIV dropouts, so I thought mine original.singlespeedscott wrote:What makes you think that the fork is not original?
Mine are big too, fits a 27" 1 1/4 without a problem, but I did not think that big. Running stock Dia-Compe G caliper with 700c rim.Brendon03 wrote:on the front I need to use a longer set of break callipers so the pads contact the rim & not the tire. Despite the matching paint, perhaps the forks are not matching tange?
Just went to the shed and checked mine, the fork crown is identical too.singlespeedscott wrote:I had a look at my Ricardo elite in the garage, metallic silver made from Tange champion 5, and the fork crown is identical to his.
As I said I have no history for my frame, acquired it with dodgy paintwork and mix and match components 105 7sp rear derailleur and shifters (1987-89 I believe) and mismatched in brand crank arms.
I am just trying to find out a little more about Ricardo, where the frames made in SA, did they manufacture frames for anybody else around 84.
Reason my original paint job was a mustard yellow over white (from the small traces I could find) and all the Ricardos I have seen have been a single metallic blue or silver in colour. The mustard and yellow would indicate to me Gordonson (a Perth company)
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby Thoglette » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:14 pm
Mine are white with blue/red spray overs (red at the seat and steerer, blue on the crank). One with blue handlebar wraps, the other red. Both Shimano 600 friction six speed with Araya rims + doublebutted 3 cross spokes (36 + 36) and Italian bars/stems.nickobec wrote: Reason my original paint job was a mustard yellow over white (from the small traces I could find) and all the Ricardos I have seen have been a single metallic blue or silver in colour. The mustard and yellow would indicate to me Gordonson (a Perth company)
The frame in question is almost identical, and has a similar frame number (down to the poorly stamped L) to the pair I have. Mine have rear-axle-position-adjusting-screws (what's the technical term?)
Both mine claim to be "Made in Australia". Tange-2 tubing.
Here is one of them - rear wheel, derailleur, pedals and seat are not original along with the accessories, otherwise all as ex-factory.
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Postby munga » Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:35 pm
ie: white with blue and red fades..
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Postby nickobec » Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:06 pm
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby Thoglette » Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:17 pm
Good question - but some soul is trying to sell a plain red one on bikeexchange.nickobec wrote:So now wondering any Ricardos have sprayover/fade of dark yellow/mustard on head tube with white?
There's one or two regularily at the Loftus St recreation centre - I'll checkout the colours next time (I was oogling the braze-ons last time)
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby brendan03 » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:45 pm
I'm sure I'm missing I vital piece of the comedic puzzle on this listing, regardless throws another groupset / colour into the discussion.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby il padrone » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:49 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby bowie » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:16 pm
Pretty sure I road it more then he did Tehehehe
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby R12RT » Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:31 am
I started out on a second hand 5 speed Malvern Star "racing bike". Neither me nor my parents could afford a new bike.
It was some years later I bought a Ricardo road bike - I forget which model. I later replaced that with a Ricardo Kakadu mountain bike. The Kakadu got squashed underneath a van about 6 years ago.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby brendan03 » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:51 pm
My frame appears to be a "Ricardo Elite" but there is no Ricardo branding on the fame - just the "elite" decals. Is it possible other manufacturers were producing bikes under the "elite" brand?
Any idea what the elite branding even signified? Was it a particular groupset or frame geometry?
Why is the sky blue and is the earth really round?
I found my frame as hard rubbish waste. I have even less to go on than others as it was literally frame and fork (scattered among the pile at that). No headset, but it did have the BB cups. No idea what components it was originally equipped with.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby xx68 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:44 pm
At your request here is the Ricardo 'Rival' pure 80's goodness in magical 1021 Hi Tensile steely stuff ! Has fancy araya rims with steel hubs , nice shimano shifters with a crappy derailler , and poo brakes ! ( not to mention the white n pur pull paint ! )
But , p155taking aside this is the quietest , smoothest bicycle ever , the sum of its parts is almost zen like , on their own they are rubbish -together wonderful !
As found on the rubbish collection , all that it needed was the tyres pumped up !
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby sharktamin » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:46 pm
nice postage stamp, but where's the bike!!
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby rustychisel » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:10 pm
I've only ever seen those top tube decals on Ricardos, which would suggest to me that your frame is indeed a Ricardo Elite, or rebranded by it's originating bike shop (perhaps). There is obviously variation even in the same model, from year to year, consignment to consignment, and availability of bits. To that end your headtube lugs look more substantial and heavier than I recall on my frame.
There are others who know a lot more than I on the provenance and supply line of Ricardo models (ie where manufactured, sold, etc)
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby singlespeedscott » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:15 pm
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby xx68 » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:09 am
clicky the pic .......it will get a lot bigger !sharktamin wrote:XX68,
nice postage stamp, but where's the bike!!
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby brendan03 » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:50 am
Mine: L1T8745
My elite has a date with the paintstripper on the near horizon but I might try and lift or produce a copy of the elite decal before I do. Someone recently linked to a post, and a fellow capable of reproducing decals. It would be great to preserve a bit of the bikes identity.
Already going though colour schemes in my head - thinking I'll keep the metallic silver but add some blue touches.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby nickobec » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:02 pm
L6A1761brendan03 wrote: Maybe we should all post our numbers, see if we can devise a rhythm or rhyme?
Mine already had a date with paint stripper and had updated components 105 shifters, RD, hubs and matching rims. Cinelli bars and Nitto 20deg stem before I got it.
Still has dia-compe G brakes and aero levers, and one SR crank. (the left is a shimano clone)
Depending on what happens with other projects, mine which is already powdercoated bistro orange, will be:
singlespeed running 27 1/4 front and 700c rear
cyclocross influenced singlespeed with the 105 hubs and rims
old school cyclocross 7sp with the 105 hubs and rims, and cherry cable pull brakes (off the older, lesser and damage Ricardo)
but that depends on mood and which parts go with which project (got another singlespeed and commuter to build)
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:07 pm
Looking at the labels on my Ricardo tonight I can be pretty sure that they were still making frames in OZ in the early eighties. The label on mine below the 10 year warranty states that it was made by "Leisure Cycles Aust. P/L, 25-27 Naweena Road, Regency Park S.A."brendan03 wrote:So, what's the good news on Ricardo? S.A. company? Did they make their own frames from tange tubes or ship in complete frames?
My frame appears to be a "Ricardo Elite" but there is no Ricardo branding on the fame - just the "elite" decals. Is it possible other manufacturers were producing bikes under the "elite" brand?
Any idea what the elite branding even signified? Was it a particular groupset or frame geometry?
Why is the sky blue and is the earth really round?
I found my frame as hard rubbish waste. I have even less to go on than others as it was literally frame and fork (scattered among the pile at that). No headset, but it did have the BB cups. No idea what components it was originally equipped with.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby il padrone » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:17 pm
Speaking from my knowledge of the bike industry in the early 80s, yes Ricardo were one of the last Australian mass-market frame makers still operating here. By the late 80s they had shopped the framebuilding out to Taiwan I believe.
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Re: Ricardo Appreciation Thread
Postby Thoglette » Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:45 pm
+2 Or something basically similar.singlespeedscott wrote:Looking at the labels on my Ricardo tonight I can be pretty sure that they were still making frames in OZ in the early eighties. The label on mine below the 10 year warranty states that it was made by "Leisure Cycles Aust. P/L, 25-27 Naweena Road, Regency Park S.A."
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