eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby munga » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:58 am
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby Wazza » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:03 am
Just picked this frame and got a bit of history. The sellers brother raced it in the Dart and he is sure its a Mercian. The brother made some mods to bring it into the 1990's and these included the installation of shifter bosses and under tube cable guides. The rear derailleur had been involved in a bump so he decided to add a bit of metal to strengthen. He also painted the frame after the mods (rough). When I get it home this afternoon I'll get a better look at it, meanwhile back to it......WyvernRH wrote:Sorry for the long link, big probs shortening it!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Merc ... 27d490e279
Ok nice enough looking frame but home in on the picture of the derailleur and r/h rear dropout! WT? is going on here!
Mercian would never let anything like that out of the shop so even with the wrap around seat stay top this looks a bit dodgy...
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Postby Kermit TF » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:43 pm
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/old-retro-vi ... 9b7&_uhb=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby barefoot » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:14 am
Wow.Kermit TF wrote:I love these sebrings...$20 start in brisvegas.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/old-retro-vi ... 9b7&_uhb=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I would have noticed the suicide brake levers, passed judgement on the whole bike, and moved on. Without noticing the 600 group.
What is with the levers? I always thought they were a surefire indicator of low-end bike-boom rubbish.
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Postby bychosis » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:45 am
At the time they were probably seen as useful. People have always had more money than sense. Paying extra to have them fitted might have been an optio kinda like turning your drop bars upside down?barefoot wrote:Wow.Kermit TF wrote:I love these sebrings...$20 start in brisvegas.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/old-retro-vi ... 9b7&_uhb=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I would have noticed the suicide brake levers, passed judgement on the whole bike, and moved on. Without noticing the 600 group.
What is with the levers? I always thought they were a surefire indicator of low-end bike-boom rubbish.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby singlespeedscott » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:55 am
I have seen a few sets of Shimano 600 suicide levers during my scrounging.bychosis wrote:At the time they were probably seen as useful. People have always had more money than sense. Paying extra to have them fitted might have been an optio kinda like turning your drop bars upside down?barefoot wrote:Wow.Kermit TF wrote:I love these sebrings...$20 start in brisvegas.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/old-retro-vi ... 9b7&_uhb=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I would have noticed the suicide brake levers, passed judgement on the whole bike, and moved on. Without noticing the 600 group.
What is with the levers? I always thought they were a surefire indicator of low-end bike-boom rubbish.
The Sebring doesn't have a full groupset. Its missing the Jewel in the crown, the sweet Arabesque crankset.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby rangersac » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:00 pm
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby WyvernRH » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:51 pm
Oh well, that's all good then - nice price! Needs a bit of tidying up tho'.Wazza wrote:Just picked this frame and got a bit of history. The sellers brother raced it in the Dart and he is sure its a Mercian. The brother made some mods to bring it into the 1990's and these included the installation of shifter bosses and under tube cable guides. The rear derailleur had been involved in a bump so he decided to add a bit of metal to strengthen. He also painted the frame after the mods (rough). When I get it home this afternoon I'll get a better look at it, meanwhile back to it......WyvernRH wrote:Mercian would never let anything like that out of the shop so even with the wrap around seat stay top this looks a bit dodgy...
Waz
Try looking here http://www.merciancycles.co.uk/history where they have a few catalogs so you can try and see what you have there. If there is a frame number Mercian will identify it exactly for a small fee. You can get replacement transfers from Nick in the UK at http://www.hlloydcycles.com/ but he will want a frame number.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
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Postby LugNut » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:07 pm
Nice!
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Postby singlespeedscott » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:28 pm
Very niceLugNut wrote:Holdsworth
Nice!
I love the Campagnolo racing dropouts. A very rare thing on older steel race frames.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby Kermit TF » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:44 pm
Yup, never judge a book by the cover..barefoot wrote:Wow.Kermit TF wrote:I love these sebrings...$20 start in brisvegas.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/old-retro-vi ... 9b7&_uhb=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I would have noticed the suicide brake levers, passed judgement on the whole bike, and moved on. Without noticing the 600 group.
What is with the levers? I always thought they were a surefire indicator of low-end bike-boom rubbish.
Scotts right, if it only had the arabesque chainwheel.....still , for 20 odd buckarooneys, how can you go wrong.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby HappyHumber » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:19 pm
Maybe the "Champion of the World 1985" stickers with the colours might be available on these and other frames - but I also notice a strong similarity with the tricolor chevrons either end of the "Hillman" downtube text with the same on Kenevans from a similar period. Did some Hillmans have any Ken Evans provenance or similar or just a kwinky-dink? I've heard it said the Kenevans contemporary livery was a pretty obv. rip off of Tommasini
thumbnail of some Ken decals from velocals;
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby QuangVuong » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:04 pm
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/chittawa ... 1023844644" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Fake? Colnago. Maybe some Ricardo. At least it isnt overly expensive. For a clean 600 tricolor groupset its not a bad price.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/northmea ... 1023757108" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby WyvernRH » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:08 pm
Not original fittings according to the spiel. Seller replaced the original dropouts. Look nice tho'singlespeedscott wrote:Very niceLugNut wrote:Holdsworth
Nice!
I love the Campagnolo racing dropouts. A very rare thing on older steel race frames.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby im_no_pro » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:51 pm
Grr... if that Fuji was in Melbourne i'd be on it.QuangVuong wrote:Cheap Fuji Royale
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/chittawa ... 1023844644" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Fake? Colnago. Maybe some Ricardo. At least it isnt overly expensive. For a clean 600 tricolor groupset its not a bad price.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/northmea ... 1023757108" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That Holdsworth is very nice.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby singlespeedscott » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:55 pm
That will teach me not to read the spielWyvernRH wrote:Not original fittings according to the spiel. Seller replaced the original dropouts. Look nice tho'singlespeedscott wrote:Very niceLugNut wrote:Holdsworth
Nice!
I love the Campagnolo racing dropouts. A very rare thing on older steel race frames.
Cheers
Richard
Unusual that the builder had the dropouts as they disappeared from the catalogs in the early 70's.
I never understood why they were only popular with cyclo tourists, particularly the French. They do make for easier rear wheel removal, particularly if you want to run mud guards.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby LugNut » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:41 am
Interestin'. They are too similar to not have been purposeful. What a beautiful bike too. Bikes like this make me really regret selling my road bike. What would really finish it off is a better quill stem, and that Rolls saddle I've been hanging onto.HappyHumber wrote:My sizing, reasonable start price, but alas not even in the ball park location wise; Big Hillman
Maybe the "Champion of the World 1985" stickers with the colours might be available on these and other frames - but I also notice a strong similarity with the tricolor chevrons either end of the "Hillman" downtube text with the same on Kenevans from a similar period. Did some Hillmans have any Ken Evans provenance or similar or just a kwinky-dink? I've heard it said the Kenevans contemporary livery was a pretty obv. rip off of Tommasini
thumbnail of some Ken decals from velocals;
Kym, I'm calling dibs. Thanks!
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?
Postby morini » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:28 am
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mavic-Zap-De ... 4ac6f40170" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Postby familyguy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:56 am
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Postby barefoot » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:14 am
Nothing that couldn't be solved by a suitably motivated geek with an arduino...familyguy wrote:And useless without the matching shifters, non?
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