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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby wqlava1 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:32 am

grantw wrote:Speaking of old brooks saddles, here's one atop a very interesting specimen in Ballarat

I'm digging the aero headtube and the seat bolt arrangement.


The head tube looks to have been shaped as a hex tube, with some sort of integration at the bottom. Maybe it's just the photos, but the head tube also looks quite steep.
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Postby Torana68 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:23 am

The head tube looks to have been shaped as a hex tube, with some sort of integration at the bottom. Maybe it's just the photos, but the head tube also looks quite steep.[/quote]

Im liking it :) but that headtube looks a little too steep not to be bent...... tempted , but the pick up only doesnt make it easy :(
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby grantw » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:42 am

How far is Ballarat from Bright :wink:

Just checked, too far :(
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby 240ZR » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:55 am

wqlava1 wrote:
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I'm hearing u HLC.



Well you might be hearing HLC but not listening to the many others. My guess is that many are like me who feel relentless insidious commercial pressure in their email and other Internet usage, and would prefer to pass on that when taking part in this forum. It's a very open club, but one with the usual behavioral expectations. I think it only polite for another member to state overtly when he stands to make money from me and the other members.


OMGosh!!! I see this misguided mentality from alot of people here in Australia, & I mean alot! so ur not alone wqlava. There's millions of people with the same attitude of caring more about other peoples pockets than they are of their own. These ppl will gladly hand over money to a stranger selling an item that they want but if it's someone they know (or a forum member), then no way! "they're not going to make money out of me"
Let me ask this... so if a good friend of ur's was a manager or owner of Woolie's, Coles, Macca's or even the servo down the road, u would not go to their place of business simply because they will be making money out of u? I think this impolite because if u no someone or have a friend selling something u need or want, then u shud support them & not wish them ill wealth... & as for u munga, no disrespect mate but this has to be said. I no rules are rules but how different would it be if a member forwarded me a link of the stuff they're selling on eBay & another member promoted the add on here? Is there a rule against this or are the mods now going to make this a new rule too & if so, how are they going to police it??? please! if this is how naive ppl on this forum are concerning this rule, then I think the mods shud get their heads together & come up with a better ruling unless they're ok with the above scenario. It's not rocket science ppl, it's common sense!
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Dow Jones Index » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:51 am

Im liking it :) but that headtube looks a little too steep not to be bent...... tempted , but the pick up only doesnt make it easy :(


I think it actually is just a very steep HT - unusual for vintage Australian track bikes but you'd probably see some bowing (or at least bulging) in the TT and/or DT if it was bent.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby wqlava1 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:27 pm

240ZR wrote:
wqlava1 wrote:
240ZR wrote:
I'm hearing u HLC.



Well you might be hearing HLC but not listening to the many others. My guess is that many are like me who feel relentless insidious commercial pressure in their email and other Internet usage, and would prefer to pass on that when taking part in this forum. It's a very open club, but one with the usual behavioral expectations. I think it only polite for another member to state overtly when he stands to make money from me and the other members.


OMGosh!!! I see this misguided mentality from alot of people here in Australia, & I mean alot! so ur not alone wqlava. There's millions of people with the same attitude of caring more about other peoples pockets than they are of their own. These ppl will gladly hand over money to a stranger selling an item that they want but if it's someone they know (or a forum member), then no way! "they're not going to make money out of me"
Let me ask this... so if a good friend of ur's was a manager or owner of Woolie's, Coles, Macca's or even the servo down the road, u would not go to their place of business simply because they will be making money out of u? I think this impolite because if u no someone or have a friend selling something u need or want, then u shud support them & not wish them ill wealth... & as for u munga, no disrespect mate but this has to be said. I no rules are rules but how different would it be if a member forwarded me a link of the stuff they're selling on eBay & another member promoted the add on here? Is there a rule against this or are the mods now going to make this a new rule too & if so, how are they going to police it??? please! if this is how naive ppl on this forum are concerning this rule, then I think the mods shud get their heads together & come up with a better ruling unless they're ok with the above scenario. It's not rocket science ppl, it's common sense!


You've misunderstood this. I have bought/sold many things from/to other members in the marketplace. How's about I reword it " I think it only polite for another member to state overtly when he has a financial interest in something offered to me and the other members"?

As for getting a second username, be it yours or another's, to promote things - a pattern in that is soon observed.

My observation would be that in usage of forums like this that enable us to interact, there is a continuum of people from sellers of male enlargement gear at one commercial extreme to people with a purely academic interest in things at the other extreme. Each of us is happy with our place on that continuum and will defend it, but you are a little more to the commercial end than me (although probably we are pretty close together on that long line given that we are both here, and both a long way from either end). Munga and the other admins are able to point to the current definitions which try to show the limits of behaviour. I'm happy being within those current definitions and they sit comfortably for me. You're encouraging behaviour that is around or just past the current commercial limit here, and that seems to be what you are comfortable with.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby 240ZR » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:10 pm

^ " I think it only polite for another member to state overtly when he has a financial interest in something offered to me and the other members"?

Somehow I believe u would still have a problem with feeling comfortable with this!

&... The only thing I'm not comfortable with on any forum is whiners & wingers as opposed to not being comfortable with ppl making money out of me... but hey, each to their own.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby rkelsen » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:25 pm

240ZR wrote:u would still have a problem with feeling comfortable with this!

I think the problem is more that he broke the rules of this website.

It's a very Australian thing to be upset by someone else breaking the rules. Europeans don't seem to understand it [and neither do I, quite frankly]. If you want to see more of it, search these forums for the threads on helmets or red lights.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby wqlava1 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:54 pm

rkelsen wrote:
240ZR wrote:u would still have a problem with feeling comfortable with this!

I think the problem is more that he broke the rules of this website.

It's a very Australian thing to be upset by someone else breaking the rules. Europeans don't seem to understand it [and neither do I, quite frankly]. If you want to see more of it, search these forums for the threads on helmets or red lights.


rkelsen, I'm not really worried about the rules being broken per se if it doesn't inconvenience me or endanger others. However, the impact on me if it let it pass is more crappy sneaky advertorial where I expect somewhat more honest editorial. I'm just wanting to maintain the quality of the thread, such as it is. Once spamming of the non-marketplace forums is accepted, the whole BNA lessens in value.

240ZR, please believe me that I am comfortable with the above that you quoted. I'm also comfortable that if you or the guy I commented on with the old Campag wheels post outside the rules, you'll get gently pushed again to improve the quality of your usage of the forums. You'll just find it easier to advertise in the marketplace provided (and encouraged!).
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby cray- » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:42 pm

Feel free to take this conversation here or here and let's get this thread back on topic, MOAR WEIRD/CHEAP/DODGY eBay* LINKS!

*Gumtree also acceptable, no point having a separate thread.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby 240ZR » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:08 pm

wqlava1 wrote:
rkelsen wrote:
240ZR wrote:u would still have a problem with feeling comfortable with this!

I think the problem is more that he broke the rules of this website.

It's a very Australian thing to be upset by someone else breaking the rules. Europeans don't seem to understand it [and neither do I, quite frankly]. If you want to see more of it, search these forums for the threads on helmets or red lights.


rkelsen, I'm not really worried about the rules being broken per se if it doesn't inconvenience me or endanger others. However, the impact on me if it let it pass is more crappy sneaky advertorial where I expect somewhat more honest editorial. I'm just wanting to maintain the quality of the thread, such as it is. Once spamming of the non-marketplace forums is accepted, the whole BNA lessens in value.

240ZR, please believe me that I am comfortable with the above that you quoted. I'm also comfortable that if you or the guy I commented on with the old Campag wheels post outside the rules, you'll get gently pushed again to improve the quality of your usage of the forums. You'll just find it easier to advertise in the marketplace provided (and encouraged!).


rkelsen, I think you'l find it's common knowledge that Europeans have alot more common sense than Australian's do. Europeans also get upset about rules being broken too, they just don't get upset about stupid one's being broken or where common sense prevails. This is probably not the right example but u shud get my drift. If a driver does not indicate to turn left at an intersection where there are no other cars around at all, are they really breaking the rule of "not indicating"? or shud a winging Australian that's walking on the footpath get upset when he sees this even tho it has no effect on him or others??? I believe that lack of common sense is what Europeans don't understand.

Lol! I'm not even going to attempt reading the threads regarding helmets & red lights as I'm sure I'll get a massive migraine from all the :roll: I'll instinctively be doing.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Dow Jones Index » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:32 pm

Indicating is a pretty good habit to get into, especially when you're behind the wheel of a tonne of metal. Now like Cray said, let's keep this thread on track.

Here's an interesting 'Boy's aluminum road bike'. Looks to be a Vitus or Alan

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/130835235597 ... 1438.l2649
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby munga » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:44 pm

240ZR wrote:..& as for u munga, no disrespect mate but this has to be said. I no rules are rules but how different would it be if a member forwarded me a link of the stuff they're selling on eBay & another member promoted the add on here? Is there a rule against this or are the mods now going to make this a new rule too & if so, how are they going to police it??? please! if this is how naive ppl on this forum are concerning this rule, then I think the mods shud get their heads together & come up with a better ruling unless they're ok with the above scenario. It's not rocket science ppl, it's common sense!


240ZR, if you choose to manipulate the rules to your own benefit, who am i to get in your way? as it stands now, you're not allowed to spam your own ebay ads. the end.
i've been pulled up for it myself once before, however, i did make it pretty clear it was my own ad, and after being approached about it, offered to remove my post. i didn't get in a huff about how silly it is, because it's not my forum, it's not my rules, and if i don't like it i can choose not to participate.

also, generalising entire populations of entire continents is a bit much, don't you think?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby munga » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:47 pm

Dow Jones Index wrote:Indicating is a pretty good habit to get into, especially when you're behind the wheel of a tonne of metal. Now like Cray said, let's keep this thread on track.

Here's an interesting 'Boy's aluminum road bike'. Looks to be a Vitus or Alan

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/130835235597 ... 1438.l2649


vitus. alan has a seperate headtube, vitus is one-piece up front.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby 240ZR » Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:52 pm

munga wrote:
240ZR wrote:..& as for u munga, no disrespect mate but this has to be said. I no rules are rules but how different would it be if a member forwarded me a link of the stuff they're selling on eBay & another member promoted the add on here? Is there a rule against this or are the mods now going to make this a new rule too & if so, how are they going to police it??? please! if this is how naive ppl on this forum are concerning this rule, then I think the mods shud get their heads together & come up with a better ruling unless they're ok with the above scenario. It's not rocket science ppl, it's common sense!


240ZR, if you choose to manipulate the rules to your own benefit, who am i to get in your way? as it stands now, you're not allowed to spam your own ebay ads. the end.
i've been pulled up for it myself once before, however, i did make it pretty clear it was my own ad, and after being approached about it, offered to remove my post. i didn't get in a huff about how silly it is, because it's not my forum, it's not my rules, and if i don't like it i can choose not to participate.

also, generalising entire populations of entire continents is a bit much, don't you think?


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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Hamster » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:00 pm

It would not be at all strange if history came to the conclusion that the perfection of the bicycle was the greatest achievement of the nineteenth century.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby grantw » Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:51 pm

Hamster wrote:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-OLD-MAN-ROAD-BIKE-GREAT-FOR-RESTORER-SALE-AS-IT-/321057592638?pt=AU_Sport_Cycling_Bikes&hash=item4ac086153e

The price of rust is up, but perhaps a diamond lurks underneath the crusty exterior.


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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby rkelsen » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:10 pm

Hamster wrote:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-OLD-MAN-ROAD-BIKE-GREAT-FOR-RESTORER-SALE-AS-IT-/321057592638?pt=AU_Sport_Cycling_Bikes&hash=item4ac086153e

The price of rust is up, but perhaps a diamond lurks underneath the crusty exterior.

Its in better condition than the stuff American Pickers buy... but I was thinking more in the vicinity of thirty bucks... :lol:
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Wal42 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:01 pm

rkelsen wrote:
Hamster wrote:http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-OLD-MAN-ROAD-BIKE-GREAT-FOR-RESTORER-SALE-AS-IT-/321057592638?pt=AU_Sport_Cycling_Bikes&hash=item4ac086153e

The price of rust is up, but perhaps a diamond lurks underneath the crusty exterior.

Its in better condition than the stuff American Pickers buy... but I was thinking more in the vicinity of thirty bucks... :lol:



Ouch!!!! Bend over whilst the seller does you know what to you.

I gotta agree, while it's probably a bit rare, this sort of stuff has a very small resale potential, so you'd blow an awfully large bucket of foldies to bring it back to a condition that you'd be happy with, I wouldn't be much more than $30-50 for it.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby find_bruce » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:35 pm

For some reason I keep having Castle flashbacks & waiting for someone to say "tell him he's dreaming" :D
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Wal42 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:56 pm

"Tell him he's dreamin' ". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby rkelsen » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:25 pm

How much is a jousting stick worth dad?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Dan » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:16 pm

Probably quite a good
deal for what it is
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Dan » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:26 pm

Fwiw, I indicated incorrectly on a roundabout the other day in Germany (and in Austria too, actually) and no one complained, although I suspect they were all too busy complaining about the snow. I generalise, of course.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Hamster » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:02 am

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Antique-1955-MALVERN-STAR-5-Star-Oppy-bike-bicycle-cruiser-/170950160649?pt=AU_Sport_Cycling_Bikes&hash=item27cd6c7109

Perhaps a Malvern Star expert can shed some light on this one for me. The head tube has 5-stars but the rest of the bike looks fairly low-end. :?:
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