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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:25 pm

"heavily discounted", not enough!

Seriously how do you get something so basic to weigh that much? I've had bikes with steel rims that were lighter.

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby grantw » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:41 pm

Aagghh my eyes, my eyes :shock:

Are they suicide levers?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby QuangVuong » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:12 pm

Malvern Star Sportif. Looks like seller will do about $40. It has Exage compnents, with Mavic MA40 rims.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/panania/ ... 022253118#

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http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/stanmore ... 021897831#
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Kermit TF » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:19 pm

toumbhar10 wrote:http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/melbourne-cbd/bicycles/divorcing-my-peugeot-tourmalet/1022317776

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby HappyHumber » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:30 pm

ldrcycles wrote:Seriously how do you get something so basic to weigh that much? I've had bikes with steel rims that were lighter.


That is almost a Bike-Shaped-Object Shaped Object (er... BSOSO?) it's that bad.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby frailer5 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:03 pm

TedDancin wrote:I know this isn't really retro, but it is steel, and is probably the most offensive thing I've come across while browsing the classifieds. Makes Reid's look like works of art. Check out the weight.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/parramat ... 1022322869

B-b-but it's got 'peddles'. :D Well, we know what they're peddling. Offensive indeed.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby WyvernRH » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:51 pm

ldrcycles wrote:Seriously how do you get something so basic to weigh that much? I've had bikes with steel rims that were lighter.


16.5 kilos, that's rocking on 35 lbs in the old money! I have a fully steel equipped 3 speed 1940's Super Elliott that weighs in at circa 26lbs, a 1930's Speedwell Club Racer with 28" narrow Westwood steel rims and steel everything else at 28-29 odd lbs... :shock:
What do they use, lead seatposts or cobalt handlebars?

Mind boggling...
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby wqlava1 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:23 pm

im_no_pro wrote:
TedDancin wrote:I know this isn't really retro, but it is steel, and is probably the most offensive thing I've come across while browsing the classifieds. Makes Reid's look like works of art. Check out the weight.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/parramat ... 1022322869


I'd love to see them ride their own product. As is.


The whole thing's a "leaver", not just parts of the brakes.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:26 am

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Pretty little thing, and in good nick. I like that Peugeot stuck to the European manufacturers long after it was sensible to do so. Stronglight cranks and Sachs Huret derailleurs on a mid 80s machine, probably Mafac canti's as well.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby frog » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:29 am

That is just loverly! i will have to repost it in the pug thread. If that were any closer to me I would be in some real trouble.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby WyvernRH » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:34 am

LugNut wrote:View item
Pretty little thing, and in good nick. I like that Peugeot stuck to the European manufacturers long after it was sensible to do so. Stronglight cranks and Sachs Huret derailleurs on a mid 80s machine, probably Mafac canti's as well.


Hmm, I think you are at least half a decade early with that statement. Pre-indexing the European gear was at least the equal of anything the Japanese could turn out, often better in some areas. Their main problem was crappy management and keeping bulk sale costs down to a level where they could compete with Suntour/Shimano selling mass components to bike manufacturers. Most non-racing cyclists in the UK didn't bother with indexing til the early/mid 90's, it was just an expensive toy for tech-heads and racers- why did you need it?
Shimano took the mass-market by storm when they pushed reliable indexing and brifters downmarket to their lower end kit. The European firms management had no development plan, no investment and thus mostly keeled over...(excluding Campag whose rusted on support kept them going thru all the crap they produced in the 80's/early 90's until they got there indexing act together later in the 90's!)
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby toumbhar10 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:40 am

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby bychosis » Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:54 am

WyvernRH wrote:
ldrcycles wrote:Seriously how do you get something so basic to weigh that much? I've had bikes with steel rims that were lighter.


16.5 kilos, that's rocking on 35 lbs in the old money! I have a fully steel equipped 3 speed 1940's Super Elliott that weighs in at circa 26lbs, a 1930's Speedwell Club Racer with 28" narrow Westwood steel rims and steel everything else at 28-29 odd lbs... :shock:
What do they use, lead seatposts or cobalt handlebars?

Mind boggling...
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16.5 kg is probably what is says on the box. Take off say 4kg of box and try again maybe?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:15 pm

WyvernRH wrote:
LugNut wrote:View item
Pretty little thing, and in good nick. I like that Peugeot stuck to the European manufacturers long after it was sensible to do so. Stronglight cranks and Sachs Huret derailleurs on a mid 80s machine, probably Mafac canti's as well.


Hmm, I think you are at least half a decade early with that statement. Pre-indexing the European gear was at least the equal of anything the Japanese could turn out, often better in some areas. Their main problem was crappy management and keeping bulk sale costs down to a level where they could compete with Suntour/Shimano selling mass components to bike manufacturers. Most non-racing cyclists in the UK didn't bother with indexing til the early/mid 90's, it was just an expensive toy for tech-heads and racers- why did you need it?
Shimano took the mass-market by storm when they pushed reliable indexing and brifters downmarket to their lower end kit. The European firms management had no development plan, no investment and thus mostly keeled over...(excluding Campag whose rusted on support kept them going thru all the crap they produced in the 80's/early 90's until they got there indexing act together later in the 90's!)


Thanks for the fill in, I assumed Shimano/Suntour had well and truly killed them by the time indexing came about. If there are any prospective buyers, I didn't notice the first time around that it looks like the DT and ST have been re brazed to the bottom bracket...
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Hamster » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:34 pm

It would not be at all strange if history came to the conclusion that the perfection of the bicycle was the greatest achievement of the nineteenth century.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby WyvernRH » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:03 pm

LugNut wrote: If there are any prospective buyers, I didn't notice the first time around that it looks like the DT and ST have been re brazed to the bottom bracket...


Oh yes, I see what you mean. However looking at it I would have expected the bike to have lost a lot more paint if someone had been in there with a torch :?
Maybe just a crapo paint job lifting off where they didn't clean off the flux properly when the frame was built?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby cray- » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:02 pm

"VINTAGE TRACK ROAD FUNNY BIKE HANDCRAFTED CAMPAGNOLO RENOYLDS SHIMANO FIXIE RARE"
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-TRAC ... 2ec8c77cff

Ignoring the keyword title spam, it's pretty badass if not super retro.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby HappyHumber » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:44 pm

cray- wrote:Ignoring the keyword title spam, it's pretty badass if not super retro.
He forgot the latest keyword; "L'EROICA" ;)
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:35 pm

My picks of the Gumtree week:
It's sell your Japanese bike week in Melbourne!
$150 Shogun Alpine GT in need of an overhaul. Cheap nice frame to put spare parts on for somebody.

Panasonic Team Bike, shame about the price.

Small Shogun Samurai triple triangle, slightly pricey but nice. Are those gold ano cranks?

55CM square Vitesse Roadbike With Suntour ARX.

Unmarked higher end Apollo with Drillium triple Sugino cranks (whaa?)

6' 7" indeed

12' 7" indeed

ACT

quality Spokesman mixtie with Stronglight cranks and a nice paint job.

And over in Western Australia, it's punters paradise with a few risky-but-might-just-pay-off deals:

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bunbury-6230/bicycles/touring-bikes/1021973289 $90 touring bike.

Cheap Nishiki with no size or pictures.

And in NSW, another risky buys for punters
Possible Fuji Touring in unknown size (unless you trust somebody who doesn't know anything about the bike to size it for you), unknown vintage, but they have always been quite nice.

$250 Hillman 531 Track frame in Panasonic colours.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby im_no_pro » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:41 pm

cray- wrote:"VINTAGE TRACK ROAD FUNNY BIKE HANDCRAFTED CAMPAGNOLO RENOYLDS SHIMANO FIXIE RARE"
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-TRAC ... 2ec8c77cff

Ignoring the keyword title spam, it's pretty badass if not super retro.


Keyword spamming means using unrelated words (which drives me insane), but these all relate to the bike, although some moreso than others admittedly.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:42 pm

With regard to that Shogun Alpine GT, apparently it is stolen:
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/st-kilda ... 1021613462
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby ldrcycles » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:13 pm

LugNut wrote:My picks

Panasonic Team Bike, shame about the price.

Small Shogun Samurai triple triangle, slightly pricey but nice. Are those gold ano cranks?


6' 7" indeed

12' 7" indeed



The price on that Panasonic is ludicrous, sure they're not everywhere but they're not $1,700 rare.

I think the cranks on the Shogun are just normal alu, looks like the camera angle/lighting giving it that gold tinge.

I've seen the big Apollo before, I just want to know where the auction was held where the bloke paid $400 for the bike so I can send some of my bikes there! :lol:

And as for that yellow monstrosity in SA.... :shock:
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby frailer5 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:30 pm

LugNut wrote:With regard to that Shogun Alpine GT, apparently it is stolen:
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/st-kilda ... 1021613462


Shame they couldn't take a deep breath and actually explain things a bit better. Achieved the desired effect, though, I guess. :|
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby im_no_pro » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:22 am

grantw wrote:Looks like a tange frame with a full group of Golden arrow for a reasonable price


If it doesnt start going up in price soon I will be ringing a mate in Brisbane and calling in a favour....
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby HappyHumber » Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:34 am

im_no_pro wrote:
grantw wrote:Looks like a tange frame with a full group of Golden arrow for a reasonable price
If it doesnt start going up in price soon I will be ringing a mate in Brisbane and calling in a favour....

Maaaate... those original alloy pie plates are like gold dust! :D
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