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Postby singlespeedscott » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:14 pm

That's a lot of titanium with a price to match!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151109156445 ... 26_rdc%3D1
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Postby trailgumby » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:41 pm

Interesting pedals. Anyone know what they are?
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Postby QuangVuong » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:52 pm

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby bychosis » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:58 am

singlespeedscott wrote:That's a lot of titanium with a price to match!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151109156445 ... 26_rdc%3D1


All that titanium, all I want to know is: what's it weigh?
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby rkelsen » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:44 am

I'd bet that it's not legal.
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Postby cray- » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:31 am

26" BMX CRUISER 1987 REPCO RANGER RETRO SINGLE SPEED COASTER BIKE $400
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Discodan » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:50 am

I'm going to guess it's not that light, you may well be able to pick up an off the self carbon bike for a few grand that weighs less. Carbon and lightweight alloy construction are pretty impressive these days, my brother just swapped out his very new and expensive Ti frame for a carbon one (he's in the industry and has no kids) and saved 960g and got a stiffer frame to boot. Is a Ti hub really going to be lighter than an Al one for example or is it jut Ti for Ti's sake? I don't know the answer but I'm interested
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Postby rkelsen » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:32 pm

Discodan wrote:my brother just swapped out his very new and expensive Ti frame for a carbon one (he's in the industry and has no kids) and saved 960g and got a stiffer frame to boot.

I'm gonna call BS there. Unless he went from a touring frame to a road frame, the weight difference wouldn't be anywhere near that much.

I've no doubt that his bike is that much lighter, but maybe he made gains (or losses depending upon your perspective :) ) with other components.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:17 pm

Discodan wrote:I'm going to guess it's not that light, you may well be able to pick up an off the self carbon bike for a few grand that weighs less. Carbon and lightweight alloy construction are pretty impressive these days, my brother just swapped out his very new and expensive Ti frame for a carbon one (he's in the industry and has no kids) and saved 960g and got a stiffer frame to boot. Is a Ti hub really going to be lighter than an Al one for example or is it jut Ti for Ti's sake? I don't know the answer but I'm interested


Ti for Ti's sake me thinks!
Ti can be made with a ride quality and strength similar to steel, a weight similar to Aluminium, and can be made just as stiff as carbon - whether or not it actually is any of these things is up to the engineering and build. Carbon is used because it can be pumped out in a factory at low cost, Ti (especially) and Steel require a skilled frame builder and a lot of time and money. The main advantages are that Ti lasts for a lot longer (you would own 4 or 5 Carbon bikes in the lifespan of this thing, re do the maths with that in mind), it retains the traditional craftsmanship of the bicycles of yesteryear, is more comfortable to ride regularly and over longer distances and looks very sexy to boot. I'd say that whoever will own that is not primarily concerned with the "lateral stiffness and vertical compliance" (to borrow a well used phrase from every carbon bike review ever) of their frame, but more aware that there are many other factors that make riding a fast bicycle enjoyable. They will also really really like Ti...

As for weight, I went to the toilet this morning and lost at least 960 grams. I think I may actually be more flexible now, I'm about 3cm closer towards touching my toes (according to my own testing, which is only slightly less trustworthy than Giant's) so I may have lost a bit of frame stiffness. What that actually translated to on my 15kg rig compared to last night is inconclusive, but I sure did enjoy the ride.

You're in the Retro section my friend, mention frame material at own risk 8)
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Postby frailer5 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:34 pm

I guess this is HiTen but at least no stem shifters or brake extensions. More like $40~$50, IMO. :|
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:20 pm

Everybody seems to be holding their cards close to their chests this week. :wink: I hope I'm not stepping on any toes by showing this off.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Discodan » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:39 pm

rkelsen wrote:
Discodan wrote:my brother just swapped out his very new and expensive Ti frame for a carbon one (he's in the industry and has no kids) and saved 960g and got a stiffer frame to boot.

I'm gonna call BS there. Unless he went from a touring frame to a road frame, the weight difference wouldn't be anywhere near that much.

I've no doubt that his bike is that much lighter, but maybe he made gains (or losses depending upon your perspective :) ) with other components.


I agree it's a big number, the Ti frame is a Cube Litening so it's no touring frame and it was tricked out with Enve everything so there wasn't much weight to be saved from components. I'll get more details
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Postby LugNut » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:53 pm

This Repco (Nishiki) Cresta has got me a little confused.
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It just doesn't look to be as high quality as the Nishiki Crestas on google, it seems to have *slightly* different geometry, and it doesn't seem to be nicely finished - I can't see 'Nishiki' stamped on the seat stay ends or anything like that. It does have the Nishiki sticker on the head tube. Also that looks like a Tange 900 sticker, most Cresta's were Tange 2.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:18 pm

I think it is just eye tricks. Here's one that looks very similar to both bikes for comparison.

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and here's the one in question.

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby munga » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:25 pm

have you checked the tubeset against the repco catalogues?

its a repco road bike with canti's so it has to be a cresta. i dunno if they were rebadged nishikis, or if they outsourced from somewhere else at some stage.
either way, i'd say go for it.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:00 pm

Yeah. I'm quietly confident it's a Nishiki, you can juuusst see the edge of the head badge under the drop bar, and it certainly looks right
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I'm after something with 'sport touring' geo that I can throw some modern (ish) components and fenders on to ride Audax.


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Ay. Found it in the catalogues. Thanks Munga.
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Tange 900 indeed and Aussie built. Not quite as nice as the earlier Nishiki built ones. Hi ten fork. I think I'm too much of a snob for a Hi-ten fork. :lol:
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Postby munga » Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:38 pm

keep an eye out for a shogun alpine gt
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Postby QuangVuong » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:14 pm

Not retro, but one great steal for the winner!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Time-Trial-B ... 1c35bcbfd9
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Rob74 » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:55 pm

1985 63cm Raleigh Prestige with he says slight mods

Bespoke Bikes...brilliant

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Hey Lugnut re "and here's the REPCO CRESTA in question" U going to have a crack at it...cause if not I've always wanted one....

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:17 am

All yours Rob. :)

Also that Bespoke video was great, some well spoken words from the masters. I love watching frame building videos, it's so interesting.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:20 am

QuangVuong wrote:Not retro, but one great steal for the winner!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Time-Trial-B ... 1c35bcbfd9


Ouch, and a sad handover for the seller!
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Dan » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:31 am

At least he has $510 to spend on 'how to write eBay ads' lessons.
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Postby singlespeedscott » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:13 am

munga wrote:keep an eye out for a shogun alpine gt

You and me both.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby dayne » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:33 am

rkelsen wrote:
Discodan wrote:my brother just swapped out his very new and expensive Ti frame for a carbon one (he's in the industry and has no kids) and saved 960g and got a stiffer frame to boot.

I'm gonna call BS there. Unless he went from a touring frame to a road frame, the weight difference wouldn't be anywhere near that much.

I've no doubt that his bike is that much lighter, but maybe he made gains (or losses depending upon your perspective :) ) with other components.



?? Dropping 975g is easy There is plenty of sub 700g frames out there these days,
If the old frame was Ti and alloy steerer/crown with carbon blades you could drop that easily.
There is also plenty of bikes on the floor these days that are sub 6kg, Mine is 6.3 with training tyres (clinchers), Bottle cages computer/cad sensor and a garmin and mount and pedals.
That is not really trying to hard
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Postby find_bruce » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:45 am

dayne wrote:There is also plenty of bikes on the floor these days that are sub 6kg, Mine is 6.3 with training tyres (clinchers), Bottle cages computer/cad sensor and a garmin and mount and pedals.
That is not really trying to hard

And how many of those bikes would be retro ???
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