eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby rkelsen » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:38 am

dayne wrote:?? Dropping 975g is easy There is plenty of sub 700g frames out there these days,

Right. And how many Ti frames weigh > 1.7kg?

Even the rubbish ones from ebay/China come in at 1.3kg. A custom one would have to be less than that.

As an aside, a good quality carbon frame (like the Colnago C59) weighs closer to 1.0kg. Something weighing less than 700g would have to be extremely "noodly" (and possibly unsafe) under a 90kg bloke's butt, wouldn't it?
dayne wrote:If the old frame was Ti and alloy steerer/crown with carbon blades you could drop that easily.

Note: Frame only. There was no mention of fork.
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Postby bog1953 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:16 am

The reality is that it's not the frame that makes a difference it's the things that attach to the frame that make a substantial weight gain. A really good steel frame only weighs slightly more than a carbon frame. But the group set, bars, stem, seat post and most importantly the wheels are so much lighter today. The real advance in technology has been in wheels. I recently held a pair of wheels that were one piece of carbon, I.e. that the rim and spokes were one piece . If I saw them without knowing what they were I would of thought that they came from Kmart. They were $8000.00 wheels that were so light and would spin with a slight breeze behind them. If I was apro rider I would ride carbon, because the factory would supply a new bike every time free of charge, but being a weekend rider I want comfort and reliability. That's what steel gives you
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby dayne » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:23 am

C59-Quality? hardly i have seen two snapped locally, Italian bikes these days suck.
Check out the Americans guys like http://www.crumptoncycles.com/ http://www.parleecycles.com/intro/ http://calfeedesign.com/ they are doing some impressive stuff
As for forks, New carbon companies are doing 250g ones where as columbus tusk forks that were all the rage on ti frames are about 550g so theres 300g there

Heres a quick frame i found http://www.totalcycling.com/a-z/frames_ ... pQodAWAAaw
1500g frame only
1900g frame and fork

So its doable to drop near a kilo off a frame, expensive yes, but worth it is up to the rider.

I ride carbon, steel, and alloy bikes and all are great and have their great points it's about choosing the right package for the right rider, I couldnt imagine doing a long or fast hill or race on my 12kg Tommasini but on my S Works is great, but i couldnt imagine doing a raining training ride on my Tommasini either but on the plastic bike i dont care.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby rkelsen » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:51 am

dayne wrote:So its doable to drop near a kilo off a frame

You're still counting the fork. :lol:
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby dayne » Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:49 pm

you will have trouble without a fork so most people include them in the weight haha
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:13 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:
munga wrote:keep an eye out for a shogun alpine gt

You and me both.


Sydney and above and it's yours, Melbourne through to Adelaide and it's mine. Western Australia is no mans land. Deal? :lol:
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Wed Aug 28, 2013 1:35 pm

dayne wrote:you will have trouble without a fork so most people include them in the weight haha


You'll still have trouble without every other component.

And once it is all built you'll still have trouble seeing any improvement... :lol:
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby singlespeedscott » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:16 pm

LugNut wrote:
singlespeedscott wrote:
munga wrote:keep an eye out for a shogun alpine gt

You and me both.


Sydney and above and it's yours, Melbourne through to Adelaide and it's mine. Western Australia is no mans land. Deal? :lol:

Done :)
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby dayne » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:54 pm

Some one should buy Dubrats Centurion Aero in the for sale section, The thing is a killer deal.
Plus then he can buy more bikes ;)
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Postby HappyHumber » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:56 pm

Dibs on WA :)
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Postby LugNut » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:54 pm

Really nice Batavus for sale in Brissy, get in quick.

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Postby singlespeedscott » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:03 pm


Someone else had that advertised on Gumtree for $50 last week.
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Postby bychosis » Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:24 pm

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Rob74 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:20 pm

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:09 am

Somebody please save this rather nice frame from it's sad existence as a threadless stem converted disaster. Durban
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Postby rkelsen » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:43 am

LugNut wrote:Somebody please save this rather nice frame from it's sad existence as a threadless stem converted disaster.

It's not that bad. They've just used one of those crappy quill adapters. It actually has a threaded headset installed.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby rangersac » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:30 am

Anybody know anything about Ramondo bikes? Google seems to think they were built in Adelaide. The stem shifters, suicide levers and bolt on hanger don't fill me with confidence so it's probably just a Hi-ten beater only worth a pineapple. It looks like it's made for touring though with the long chainstays, relaxed geometry and the downtube pump pegs. I'm looking for something reasonably decent of the genre to rebuild for commuting duties, as I'm getting sick of breaking modern alloy frames.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:41 pm

rkelsen wrote:
LugNut wrote:Somebody please save this rather nice frame from it's sad existence as a threadless stem converted disaster.

It's not that bad. They've just used one of those crappy quill adapters. It actually has a threaded headset installed.


That plus the 30% riser = disaster in my eyes
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LG » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:20 pm

rangersac wrote:Anybody know anything about Ramondo bikes? Google seems to think they were built in Adelaide. The stem shifters, suicide levers and bolt on hanger don't fill me with confidence so it's probably just a Hi-ten beater only worth a pineapple. It looks like it's made for touring though with the long chainstays, relaxed geometry and the downtube pump pegs. I'm looking for something reasonably decent of the genre to rebuild for commuting duties, as I'm getting sick of breaking modern alloy frames.

It looks like cheap crap and too small for you. I'll keep an eye out for a better quality 58cm frame (provided it's not one I want :lol: ).
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby QuangVuong » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:35 pm

Someone get on this. Easton Elite Evolution running full 105SC parts.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/currans- ... 026650729#
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby ldrcycles » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:35 pm

LugNut wrote:Somebody please save this rather nice frame from it's sad existence as a threadless stem converted disaster. Durban


That's nice (apart from the unattractive stem setup obviously), especially with full SunTour GPX, it's good stuff.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby rangersac » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:45 pm

LG wrote: It looks like cheap crap and too small for you. I'll keep an eye out for a better quality 58cm frame (provided it's not one I want :lol: ).


Aye, I was more wondering if they did anything decent. Thanks for keeping your eyes open for me.
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby LugNut » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:52 pm

QuangVuong wrote:Someone get on this. Easton Elite Evolution running full 105SC parts.
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/currans- ... 026650729#

*shudder* them stickers.

ldrcycles wrote:
LugNut wrote:Somebody please save this rather nice frame from it's sad existence as a threadless stem converted disaster. Durban


That's nice (apart from the unattractive stem setup obviously), especially with full SunTour GPX, it's good stuff.


yeah, Durban? Never heard of 'em and Google turned up nothing. Columbus dropouts, lugged brake bridge, flawlessly finished lugs and a nice paint job. Maybe custom :?:
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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby Rob74 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:18 pm

Bitsa…but I fancy I can see columbus frame lugs top & bottom of steerer tube & chain stay bridge, and rear tips, front brake either Sante or Exage

Re: rangersac » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:30 am
Ramondo bicycle =>> Gas pipe at best steel rims bottom feeder RD,....its has an expensive alloy rack?

Re: QuangVuong » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:35 pm
"eastern-elite-triathlon-road-bike"
=>> I smell…..Donor parts!!!! who wants a frame :)

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Re: eBay prices on the rise, good time to sell old junk?

Postby munga » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:35 pm

didn't ken evans and his son paul, build evolutions? frames worth more than the group imho.
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