Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ammie7 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:35 pm

There is a rideable Speedwell in Sydney, A335 earlier and only $250.
Seller is a great guy who would never make fun of holocaust victims to amuse his mates.
Racial Vilification Act of 1995 is not to be ignored for fun.


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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby munga » Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:45 pm

persistence beats resistance.
i actually planned to move to tas about 12 years ago, but the company with whom i was due to start, relocated to brisbane..
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby morini » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:08 pm

Drop the bone girls.......
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby PatNZ » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:51 am

I got three bikes from a garage sale sold two for the price I paid for three so the third one was free.

This is the bike I kept an Elan bike. I've never heard of this brand before but it seem to be a decent bike. It has mostly a 400ex groupset with other various exage action and exage sport parts on it. The gear cables look pretty new and the front tire was still good. I've had to put a new back one on. The bike was missing the front brake so ive put on a cheapy dual pivot brake. I can see some one had already modified the fork for the modern brake to fit. So the modern dual pivot brake bolted right in.

I think this was a good purchase just need to replace the bar tape. I have no clue what the frame is made out of I can't find any stickers any where. I don't know what year this bike is either.

Any one else know much about these bikes?

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby find_bruce » Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:41 am

PatNZ wrote:I got three bikes from a garage sale sold two for the price I paid for three so the third one was free.

This is the bike I kept an Elan bike. I've never heard of this brand before but it seem to be a decent bike. It has mostly a 400ex groupset with other various exage action and exage sport parts on it. The gear cables look pretty new and the front tire was still good. I've had to put a new back one on. The bike was missing the front brake so ive put on a cheapy dual pivot brake. I can see some one had already modified the fork for the modern brake to fit. So the modern dual pivot brake bolted right in.

I think this was a good purchase just need to replace the bar tape. I have no clue what the frame is made out of I can't find any stickers any where. I don't know what year this bike is either.

Any one else know much about these bikes?

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:43 pm

Well der, the frame's made of steel :lol: . IIRC Elan was something to do with Abeni, a trawl though the Abeni Appreciation thread might get you some more info.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby Lots of steel bikes » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:40 pm

Got this nice never used 600 derailleur at a market this morning.

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby Tomca74 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:42 pm

Lots of steel bikes wrote:Got this nice never used 600 derailleur at a market this morning.

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dammit! Why can I never find one of those?
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby PatNZ » Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:40 pm

ldrcycles wrote:Well der, the frame's made of steel :lol: . IIRC Elan was something to do with Abeni, a trawl though the Abeni Appreciation thread might get you some more info.


I didn't manage to find out much from that thread only that Abeni didn't talk much and probably didn't keep good records. It'd be good to know what the frames made out of for curiosity purposes also if it turned out to be some thing good possibly even repaint the bike at some point.
I've heard some people mention that the seat post measurements can some times help determine information about the frame? The bike weighs 10.5kgs as is.

My partner actually loves the fluro color and I'm more concerned about how the thing rides. So its good. Still gonna hunt for more old steel bikes this spec or higher :-D.

Also good find with the unused 600 derailer. How much did it cost you?
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby morini » Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:26 am

There's plenty of photos on the Abeni thread so I'd compare the frame lugs, fork crown etc and find a match and measure the seat post and I.D. the drop outs. Some of Abeni's trade frames were made of Falk by companies like Technotrat and used stamped dropouts. For some reason I thought yours was an Asian one but it really doesn't open any doors with me but you never know. Most of us only ever learnt anything about these frames by comparing them to others. Goggle other brands from the same stable like, Ferrari , Bernardi, Record, Europa, Viner, some cheaper Colnagos and Daccordi. There's probably more but I haven't had a coffee yet.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby Lots of steel bikes » Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:47 pm

PatNZ wrote:Also good find with the unused 600 derailer. How much did it cost you?

It was $5. Unfortunately old habits die hard, I embarrassed myself by asking if he'd take $3.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby mark field » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:52 pm

Lots of steel bikes wrote:
PatNZ wrote:Also good find with the unused 600 derailer. How much did it cost you?

It was $5. Unfortunately old habits die hard, I embarrassed myself by asking if he'd take $3.


:shock: please complete this sentence " the markets i went to were held at......."
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ironhanglider » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:28 am

mark field wrote:
Lots of steel bikes wrote:
PatNZ wrote:Also good find with the unused 600 derailer. How much did it cost you?

It was $5. Unfortunately old habits die hard, I embarrassed myself by asking if he'd take $3.


:shock: please complete this sentence " the markets i went to were held at......."


an undisclosed location.

What do I win?

Cheers,

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby Saro28 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:35 pm

:shock: please complete this sentence " the markets i went to were held at......."[/quote]

an undisclosed location.

What do I win?

Cheers,

Cameron[/quote]

An undisclosed prize :lol:
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby commando » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:14 pm

Picked this up locally a few days ago. Looks like a full Campagnolo groupset, though I'm no expert with these things.
There's a couple small spots of rust on the frame and it's quite dirty. After pumping up the tyres I took it for a quick spin around the block, it's been a long time since I've ridden a race bike and I forgot how fast they are! At first I thought I'd move it on, but I'm thinking I'll hang on to it.
I'll post more photos in the Abeni/Elan thread and hope someone can help date it.

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:22 pm

Nice find. I have to admit, I spent far too long looking at the thing under the right brake lever trying to work out what on earth kind of shifter it was before I realised it is the shed door handle :oops:
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby Lots of steel bikes » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:39 pm

mark field wrote:
Lots of steel bikes wrote:
PatNZ wrote:Also good find with the unused 600 derailer. How much did it cost you?

It was $5. Unfortunately old habits die hard, I embarrassed myself by asking if he'd take $3.


:shock: please complete this sentence " the markets i went to were held at......."

I was at the Beenleigh weekend market but wandered over to the adjacent oval where there was a car part swap meet. The derailleur was on a table of car part odds and ends all for $5 each. Scoured the meet for more bargains without success.
I was surprised at the high price of old car parts. I should have kept my son's Torana that was rusting away in the back yard.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby stwaen » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:07 pm

I found this piece of crap left out for a verge pickup. It had the worst paint job I've ever seen, but it was my size and the frame wasn't cracked or bent. The bike must have been updated in the mid 80s with Shimano 600 and 105 parts and a Sugino Alero chainset. It still had the original Cinelli loose bearing headset and half of a Magistroni cup and cone BB. I couldn't find any name or information on the frame other than "7215" stamped on the bottom of the BB. I thought it was weird that it had an Italian BB shell that was only 66mm wide. No braze ons anywhere. The only ID would be the stamps on the Columbus dropouts. The frame is surprisingly lightweight, but I have no clue what it is.

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I made it into a cruiser-ish bike. The paint job will flake off if you look at it wrong, but I'm glad I found a home for all the bits I had lying around. I kept the RD, calipers, shifter, cranks and fork crown race (it was 27mm and my new headset had a 26.4mm race). I drilled the BB shell for a cable guide and stretched the dropouts for a 130mm axle. I think it turned out pretty good considering how little I put into it.

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:14 pm

Nice work :) .
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby koen » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:30 pm

What did you do with the nice old steel stem?
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby stwaen » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:57 pm

What did you do with the nice old steel stem?


It was more or less destroyed when I removed it from the fork (a pry bar and vise are not the tools of a surgeon). I think that's why the headset wasn't touched during the 80s rehab. The stem was practically welded to the fork.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby mark field » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:36 pm

ldrcycles wrote:Nice work :) .


indeed. back in black.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby koen » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:19 pm

stwaen wrote:
What did you do with the nice old steel stem?


It was more or less destroyed ..


sob :cry:
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby morini » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:20 pm

I'll bet that's a better quality frame than it looks. The frame number reminds me of the way one of my Hoffy frames is marked. Columbus dropouts are not real common on gaspipe frames so I wonder who made yours? What size is the seat post?
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby stwaen » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:36 pm

What size is the seat post?


The post is 26.0 mm. The seat tube and down tube OD is 28.6 mm. Top tube OD is 25.4.

Too bad the badge was long gone. The head tube only had a couple of horizontal holes for the badge rivets.

I've only ridden a few gas pipe road bikes. They definitely felt heavy and clunky even in good condition. This bike rides well IMO. Of course, I did fit 28mm tires and an old pair of alloy wheels.
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