Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby singlespeedscott » Wed May 01, 2013 9:55 pm

LG wrote:Similar to me then :lol: , this one has a 57cm top tube, with a 51cm seat tube so will need a reasonable amount of seat post.

Definitely to small for me.

You got to remember those old MTB's were only sized an inch smaller than a road bike back then. And not modern road bike sizing either. Back then most roadies were designed to have only 10-15cm seatpost sticking out.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby barefoot » Thu May 02, 2013 10:50 am

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Serial on the BB shell says 838422


It becomes a puzzle!

I've been in touch with Hillman.

Their custom frames had 4-digit serial numbers, so it's not one of theirs.

They sold decal kits in the '80s, so as Barry at Hillman says, "it could be anything".

So... I wonder what it really is?!

My immediate thought when I found it was that it's probably a fake. I know a friend used to commute on a 1980s gaspipe bike that was bought in the 1980s with Colnago decals on it. We've confirmed that they could stick Hillman stickers on any old pile of tubes... and there's nothing to prove that the Reynolds 531 sticker is genuine either.

But it's a bit harder to fake chromed Columbus dropouts.

And you don't put a Campy headset in a re-badged Repco Traveller.

So, it is apparent I have a high-end frame here... but... what? And why is it wearing Hillman decals if it's not a Hillman?

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edit to add: seat tube is sized to fit a 27.2mm post. AFAIK, that's indicative of proper good quality steel.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby singlespeedscott » Thu May 02, 2013 7:56 pm

Definitely 531 then. See my response in the "you beauty" thread.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby landscapecadmonkey » Fri May 03, 2013 10:32 am

barefoot wrote:
barefoot wrote:Image
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Serial on the BB shell says 838422



Tim, you prob mentioned earlier on, but where did you pick it up from ? Was it at the waste transfer place just out of town ?
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby barefoot » Fri May 03, 2013 12:49 pm

landscapecadmonkey wrote:
barefoot wrote:
barefoot wrote:Image
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Serial on the BB shell says 838422



Tim, you prob mentioned earlier on, but where did you pick it up from ? Was it at the waste transfer place just out of town ?


No, it was on a pile of scrap metal at the demolition salvage place in a back street off La Trobe St (near the brake factory that pays my bills ;-) ).

The boss man had absolutely no idea that it was anything other than an old department store BSO...

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby barefoot » Fri May 03, 2013 12:52 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:Definitely 531 then. See my response in the "you beauty" thread.

... and as per my latest post in the "you beauty" thread... seemingly not 531. Tube sizes suggest that it's a (rather high spec) French frame hiding under Hillman stickers!

Definitely an oddball. Still not entirely sure what to do with it :? :lol:

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby MoeJoe » Sat May 04, 2013 11:21 am

Looks good enough Tim, surely you can do something with it if it fits you.

Put some MTB-OZ stickers on it :shock:
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Tue May 07, 2013 9:12 pm

Good find today, a Scott AFD 501 road bike. Tange Prestige tubing with Ritchey dropouts, full 1992 Shimano 105 group, an interesting looking seatpost and Scott Drop-In bars. Fairly rough shape but should clean up alright, and my size too :) .
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby QuangVuong » Tue May 07, 2013 9:17 pm

How did you manage to find that? Thats one crazy find!
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby HappyHumber » Tue May 07, 2013 9:22 pm

ldrcycles wrote:.... a Scott AFD 501 road bike. Tange Prestige tubing with Ritchey dropouts, full 1992 Shimano 105 group, an interesting looking seatpost and Scott Drop-In bars. Fairly rough shape but should clean up alright, and my size too...
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Tue May 07, 2013 9:36 pm

Too dark for my crummy phone camera to work :? . Dug it out of a scrap metal pile, I did say it was fairly rough :) . Haven't given it a proper going over yet but it definitely has plenty of scratches and a few bits of rust. The forks were originally full chrome but they are now mostly light brown. Should be able to get pics up in the morning.

Oh and no wheels or pedals.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby LugNut » Wed May 08, 2013 4:01 pm

I spotted two sorely neglected bicycles sitting in the laneway out the back of my house this morning. I rolled over for a look, the first was a Repco Traveller and the second had whacky fluoro green deep v's that had been ridden on and trashed, but the frame caught my eye. I pulled it out for a closer look, and here is what I found!

A fully chromed frame, forged dropouts, nice cutout lugs. Cutaways under the bottom bracket, in straight condition with surface rust.
Suntour Superbe cranks and Suntour downtube shifters (? possibly later era)
Zeus set pin
3TTT Stem

And the other parts are unoriginal.
I'll probably strip it down, clean it up and offer it as a frame w/stem on the marketplace, as it's too small for me and I have a few projects going. It's a lovely frame that deserves the works.
Anybody recognise anything and want to take a stab at what it is? I'm unsure if the full chrome is original, or if it the paint has been stripped by "green deep v's".

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby QuangVuong » Wed May 08, 2013 4:44 pm

It does look good! What's the weight of that thing? And size, may be interested.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Wed May 08, 2013 6:26 pm

Finally got pics up of that Scott (damn technology :roll: ).

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A better view of those god awful looking bars

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby singlespeedscott » Wed May 08, 2013 8:44 pm


Weight be damned.

It's steel for God's sake.

All I want to know is that it's at least a 23".
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby QuangVuong » Wed May 08, 2013 9:46 pm

ldrcycles wrote:Finally got pics up of that Scott (damn technology :roll: ).
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Woah, STI 105s as well! Makes me feel like I got ripped for buying the older 105 stuff. :wink:

To date, I have only found 1 bike. Some crappy gas pipe Albion Cycles roadie.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby grantw » Thu May 09, 2013 10:02 am

LugNut wrote:A fully chromed frame, forged dropouts, nice cutout lugs. Cutaways under the bottom bracket, in straight condition with surface rust.
Suntour Superbe cranks and Suntour downtube shifters (? possibly later era)
Zeus set pin
3TTT Stem


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Interesting that it has eyelets for mudguards and brake bridge and stay bridge attachment points too. Quite uncommon and a nice looking find.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby rosscojj » Fri May 17, 2013 5:41 pm

My Find is progressing. :wink:
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Unsure if I will be keeping the tubular Ambrosio Rims...
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby xerlex » Fri May 17, 2013 6:12 pm

THat chrome number is nice and as others have said, the guard mounts are a very nice touch.

All I've managed to find was a smashed carbon Avanti.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby Dan » Fri May 17, 2013 6:31 pm

those Ambrosio tubs look rad.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby munga » Fri May 17, 2013 6:49 pm

coz they say bro in the middle
pitty43 wrote:Thanks all for your help. Better change my Gumtree add now.

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby rosscojj » Fri May 17, 2013 7:01 pm

I know. I really like the look as well. But since I don't have any other original parts. I am considering going a modern 10 speed groupset like the Campagnolo Veloce and putting on some mavic open pro rims.

The tubs need some work. They have an 8 speed freewheel. They still have a metric crap load of glue dumped into the spoke holes after spending hours rubbing it down with acetone. There are also a few eyelets loose.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby EnfantDeGuerre » Fri May 17, 2013 10:08 pm

The neighbour was going to throw this out so my dad offered to save him the trouble and took it off him for free. Cro-Mo Apollo, Exage 300 cranks and chain wheel, Exage hubs, Mavic front rim, Exage 300 FD, RSX RD, interesting braze ons on the head tube for the Microshift cables.
To me, it looks mid-90's. I am guessing it is a triathlon bike.

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Sat May 18, 2013 6:15 am

Age sounds about right, one weird shifter setup though!
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby HappyHumber » Sat May 18, 2013 6:27 am

Whacky old bullhorns. Look more like horns of an old feral goat, with no ruttin competition.
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