Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ironhanglider » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:15 pm

The Asahi Optical Corporation is the company behind Pentax.

And I just won this one from ebay...

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Picking it up Monday.

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby lobstermash » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:25 pm

Nice! Looks in pretty good nick too.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ironhanglider » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:17 pm

lobstermash wrote:Nice! Looks in pretty good nick too.


I'm pleased,

I'll report on what it's really like on Monday. I intend it to be my 'just nicking down to the shops' bike.

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby lobstermash » Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:50 am

So... Turns out, while cleaning up the frame ready to paint it, I looked closely at the head tube. The Asahi Enterprises label was a sticker, and I could see a couple of painted wings underneath. I carefully removed the sticker (but still destroyed it), revealing the bike is actually a Hanter...

BNA search reveals nothing, and Google only comes up with a couple of obscure results - BMX bikes, rather than roadies. Logo is the same though.

I can also see the partial outline of the Hanter decal on the downtube, where the paint's a little different. However had this bike last didn't want people to know what it was...

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby Kermit TF » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:05 pm

Picked this up last week from the tip shop..
Suntour throughout, tange no. 5 frame..clean unit all around.
Its called a turbo :roll: ...very 80s, anyone seen or heard of this model ? Did a quick search but all the centurians I found are a higher spec.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby singlespeedscott » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:42 pm

Kermit TF wrote:Picked this up last week from the tip shop..
Suntour throughout, tange no. 5 frame..clean unit all around.
Its called a turbo :roll: ...very 80s, anyone seen or heard of this model ? Did a quick search but all the centurians I found are a higher spec.
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Nice tip shop find. That thing is in great nick. My local tip shops haven't had anything decent in years. :(

Looking at the spec on the bike I would say it's actually a very early 80's build. Just check the date codes on the derailleurs.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby The Fixer » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:04 pm

OK, this doesn't appear to be anything special, but its clean and totally original condition make me want to do something with this one.

As donated, it was filthy and neglected, this is after nothing more than a tyre pump-up and a hose-off.

It rides, brakes, and shifts like new (which, of course, it virtually is).

I do realise it's worth SFA, but I'm intending to fit some mid-range-quality ancillaries and leave it otherwise as-is (the frame's so clean
it'd almost be a crime to touch it) and use it as my daily commuter-bike....

Thoughts?

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby Mulger bill » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:32 pm

The Fixer wrote:Thoughts?

Remove the suicide levers, fit better brake blocks and enjoy the ride knowing you can stop if you have to...
...whatever the road rules, self-preservation is the absolute priority for a cyclist when mixing it with motorised traffic.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby lobstermash » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:52 pm

The Fixer wrote: Thoughts?


Make it a FIXIE!
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:27 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
The Fixer wrote:Thoughts?

Remove the suicide levers, fit better brake blocks and enjoy the ride knowing you can stop if you have to...


+1
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby The Fixer » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:04 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
The Fixer wrote:Thoughts?

Remove the suicide levers, fit better brake blocks and enjoy the ride knowing you can stop if you have to...


+1. Sounds like a good plan... :-)
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby barefoot » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:31 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
The Fixer wrote:Thoughts?

Remove the suicide levers, fit better brake blocks and enjoy the ride knowing you can stop if you have to...


...by sticking your foot in between the seat tube and rear tyre.

At least, that's how you'll stop if it's wet.

Steel rims are useless in the wet, even if you use good brake pads. Yeah, we all survived, but I wouldn't go back by choice.

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby LugNut » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:45 am

Those cheap leather faced brake pads improve the braking marginally on steel rims, they look like this
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby The Fixer » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:39 am

barefoot wrote:
Mulger bill wrote:
The Fixer wrote:Thoughts?

Remove the suicide levers, fit better brake blocks and enjoy the ride knowing you can stop if you have to...


...by sticking your foot in between the seat tube and rear tyre.

At least, that's how you'll stop if it's wet.

Steel rims are useless in the wet, even if you use good brake pads. Yeah, we all survived, but I wouldn't go back by choice.

tim


Agree 100%, and have a set of no-name (but serviceable) alloy rims to fit.
I, too, have horrible memories of the lack of brakes on steel-rimmed bikes.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:55 am

I used to commute on an 80s Univega with steel rims and Weinmann brakes, centrepull front and sidepull rear, and never had a problem.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby vaeske » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:37 am

ldrcycles wrote:I used to commute on an 80s Univega with steel rims and Weinmann brakes, centrepull front and sidepull rear, and never had a problem.


and just like lachy, I also had a univega with suicide levers and sidepull brakes and steel rims as a daily commute. The brand new blocks was helpful and definitely recommended, but they were seriously shocking to stop in the wet...
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby LugNut » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:34 am

Yeah, set up correctly, with good brakes like centrepulls or dual pivots, plus leather faced brake pads, they're serviceable. Single pivot steel brake callipers like that ^ and steel rims offer pretty dismal braking, and between upgrading the callipers or upgrading the rims, I'd go rims (or both!). As the old saying goes, if you wouldn't put your mum on it, don't ride it yourself!
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby barefoot » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:54 am

LugNut wrote:if you wouldn't put your mum on it, don't ride it yourself!

Or put your mother-in-law on it instead :twisted:

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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby LugNut » Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:31 pm

Haha! ...The possibilities!
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:58 pm

vaeske wrote:
ldrcycles wrote:I used to commute on an 80s Univega with steel rims and Weinmann brakes, centrepull front and sidepull rear, and never had a problem.


and just like lachy, I also had a univega with suicide levers and sidepull brakes and steel rims as a daily commute. The brand new blocks was helpful and definitely recommended, but they were seriously shocking to stop in the wet...


Hmm, I was using new Tektro levers, maybe there was some advantage there? (different pivot point perhaps)
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby coyote » Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:39 pm

Mulger bill wrote:Remove the suicide levers, fit better brake blocks and enjoy the ride knowing you can stop if you have to...


I have my thoughts as to why they are called "suicide levers", but what is the general reason? 8)
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby The Fixer » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:04 pm

Apparently because they encourage you to ride 'on top' of the bars, which isn't the best place for control, especially under braking.

They can also reduce the travel and braking effort available.


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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby LugNut » Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:26 pm

Not to mention they're usually so flexy that they bottom out on the bars before you get any real braking power, and it just encourages people to form bad habits with their position.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby ldrcycles » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:31 pm

The Fixer wrote:They can also reduce the travel and braking effort available.



This and


LugNut wrote:Not to mention they're usually so flexy that they bottom out on the bars before you get any real braking power


this, not so much the comments about hand positioning IMO. I read somewhere that Jacques Anquetil often rode with his hands up near the stem, and I find it very comfortable and it can be a bit more aero than being out on the hoods.
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Re: Hard Rubbish/Flea market finds

Postby akq » Mon Oct 21, 2013 2:38 pm

its an old Speedwell,from 40s maybe earlier,just trying to do some research on it,frame number says B41986,frame and forks,one wheel complete and one with invisible spokes!Also two mudguardsImage

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