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Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:48 pm
by drubie
whatsinaname wrote:...
Frame has ABENI stamped on it on the top of the seat post stays....also has an A stamped on top of the forks....red irradecent paint over chrome....forks are all chrome as is a section of the rear triangle....has ULTIMA stickers on it.......
If it has ABENI pantographed (not stamped) into it with the stylised A on the fork crown, it's likely to be one of his own frames rather than something bought in. I would expect it to be a good quality frame. You can confirm that my pulling the seatpost and looking at the size of it. However, do prepare to be possibly disappointed as occasionally Mr Abeni's shop would put stickers on all sorts of things. If it's pantographed, that likelihood is diminished.

The ULTIMA stickers appeared on a lot of "shop level" bikes though - Abeni/Europa/Elan and some other brands too. It appears in more than one set of cyclomondo decals he was selling on Ebay. They appear on my Elan further up in this thread.

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:13 pm
by whatsinaname
Not sure of the difference between embossed and stamped sorry... maybe these pics will help...


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cheers

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:19 pm
by BRLVR.v2
The pantographs are the engraving of Abeni and the A on the fork crown.

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:41 pm
by drubie
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The elan from up thread finally back from the painter. Getting weighed in this photo, 2.6kg on the nose frame and fork. Now the fun begins!

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:49 pm
by munga
nice colour. when are they putting on the gloss? 8)

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:26 pm
by drubie
Munga you mongrel low down dirty snot snuffling dog. Its glossier than your mums top lip.

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:19 pm
by munga
merry christmas, drubie!

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:43 pm
by drubie
Lump of coal for you munga!

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:53 pm
by munga
bugger. :cry:

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:41 pm
by drubie
Go get your shine box!

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Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:45 pm
by munga
ooh dat so pretty. saronni red? white panels? 36h box section rims? single pivot calipers? 8)

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:24 pm
by drubie
munga wrote:ooh dat so pretty. saronni red? white panels? 36h box section rims? single pivot calipers? 8)
Not quite saronni red but something very similar from the Mazda catalogue, in a 3 part paint system that is full of the prettiest little bits of mica you have ever seen.
Forks is white pearl - not a full pearl but a subtle one from the same year mazda catalogue.

Single pivot Athena brakes and seatpost for old school styling!

Not sure about rims yet. I am semi-seriously considering the Fulcrum Racing Zero I normally use on my race bike, but the reds are not quite compatible. I have a set of Omega rims, but the rear hub is not 10 speed compatible and I can't find an affordable 10 speed polished silver one, so the zeroes may just have to do for a while.

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:41 pm
by Dan
Posted elsewhere, but the recently completed Europa from Chez Dan.

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Artsy filters aside, its come up reasonably well.

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:55 pm
by drubie
Dan wrote:
Artsy filters aside, its come up reasonably well.
Sweet! Pity we couldn't manage to put together a matching wheelset for that open 4 CD you have on the front. I have a lonely Open 4CD rear that originally came with my Elan, albeit laced to an 8 speed campagnolo hub.

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:58 pm
by Dan
I know. This one actually needs 27" - I'm still deciding whether to source rims and build some onto a spare set of shimano hubs I have, or switch out the group and fit some long reach calipers.

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:10 pm
by Dan
Although drubie, I do have most all of a campag 8 speed group sitting here which might look nice on it... Only missing a RD ;)

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:12 pm
by drubie
Heh. We're all competing to find those elusive 8 speed rear derailleurs Dan :-)

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:54 pm
by munga
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Campagnolo-R ... 727wt_1399" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

how much are one's like that worth? $60? more? $100? more??

i think we're too squeaky. i priced a new record 11 groupset the other day. figured i could buy three repcos, three old groupsets, and still be in front ;p

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:40 am
by singlespeedscott
I'd say around $150, its in nice condition. But being just before Chrissie it may go for a lot less. This time of year is good for buying. Terrible for selling.

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:44 am
by Dan
Mirage/veloce spec are going for around $70 o_O

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:34 pm
by drubie
Dan wrote:Mirage/veloce spec are going for around $70 o_O
Yep - sounds about right. Although, kinda spendy when you think you can occasionally pick up a brand new Veloce group for $450 or so. Has the busted "power" shifters but meh.

Having said that, I think perhaps 27" Europa really needs japanese gear on it, The blue one that started this thread has SunTour Arx which is quite pretty and well made for an entry level group, plus if you score the bar end shifters it can be made very neat looking.

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:33 pm
by dodge
I have this Europa sitting at home gathering dust.. had it disassembled by flashing pedals and repainted by joe cosgrove then reassembled and restickered.Done in the early 90's from memory..It was black originally..Needs to go to a home who will actually use it :)

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Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 8:09 pm
by drubie
Suntour cyclone parts on that one dodge?

It looks serviceable - make an advertisement and see what happens.

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:19 pm
by dodge
drubie wrote:Suntour cyclone parts on that one dodge?

It looks serviceable - make an advertisement and see what happens.
Yeah its Suntour...All it needs is air in it tyres to ride :D

Re: Europa / Abeni / Elan appreciation society

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:49 pm
by munga
suntour ole`, so yeah, cyclone, or maybe sprint

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