HEALING frame number registry

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby smerrett » Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:44 pm

Hi. New member, first time poster. I thought I'd share the details of a Healing that i've just 'restored'. Was a barn find via ebay. Started out as monotone rust coloured but with some considerable effort with wire wool and wd40 I managed to achieve this patina finish. I'll post more info including frame number and photos when I get a chance/figure out how to attach images.

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby dejl240 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:36 pm

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can anyone tell me is this a healing

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:52 pm

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby ldrcycles » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:02 pm

WOW :shock:
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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby jgel » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:52 am

Hi, I am new to this forum. Have a Healing 28" ladies bike which we have been told by previous owner is around 80 years old. Serial no. on side of seat post mount is 16967. Bike looks to be fairly original except for seat and paint. Where is the best source to pick up parts for this era ? (eg leather seat) Is there any chance of picking up correct wheel rims ? These are original, but one has a few rust holes. What about original pattern tyres ? Anyone able to give me an approximate manufacture date from the serial no.?
Any help at all which you can give me would be very much appreciated.

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Tinker » Mon May 19, 2014 4:06 pm

Another bike to add to the serial # registry. #36209

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Les. Cook » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:29 am

Hi
I have a bike from Melbourne. The frame I have is Numbered 76084 and is located on the rear RHS fork circling around the axle nut. I was told the cycle is a 1950`s. Not measured it but it is a smaller size man`s (or teenagers) size. The rear axle forks are similar to Thurd`s bike as are the detail of the top rear stays where they fix to the seat post/top rail. The lug work is not as scrolled as his bike but more key slotted. There is an interesting heart shape in the centre of the head set, could be a mounting for something else or a emblem in its own right. The rear stay spacer is as RickAndra55 bike as are the tops of the front forks of his bike .The front forks are a cast dropout type. Frame lettering is comparable with other shown here, Much pinstripping, Light blue metallic paint, rust red infills and white decal panel on the seat post.
Any idea of a date would be appreciated. The wheels are not matching, front alloy and the rear steel. The crank set is Austral made in Japan.
Looking at other bikes that have similar numbers does give an idea of dating, more photos help.
Happy to post pictures if permitted.
Les

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Les. Cook » Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:12 am

Hi again
I have joined Photobucket and this is the link to the photos
Les

http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/les16 ... e=1&_suid=

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Les. Cook » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:14 pm

I am on the wrong forum page
Many thanks to Tinker, the frame has been identified as a Hartley of the early 1950`s. I have idea of when and for what reason a Hartley frame has been repainted and Healing decals fitted so completely. I am certain it happened in Melbourne. The more I look at the total bike I see it is a collection of spare parts. Does anybody know if Healing pin stripping is in fact decals. It would be interesting to Know if Healing had a connection with Healing.
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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Les. Cook » Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:50 pm

Opps
I mean Healing with Hartley.
Les

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Les. Cook » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:04 am

Hi again
After talking to 2 others there seems to be a solution. Both people refer to a practice by Healing and other larger cycle manufactures taking in older cycles of any manufacture, stripping them of paint, repainting them, adding their own decals and new componentary, then selling them. I do not know if these where sold as new cycles or refurbished cycles. This could have been as a result of steel shortages but in the case of my bicycle appears to have been done in the 1970`s or 80`s well after post war shortages. My Hartley had the appearance of being a teens commuter cycle. Is this a well known practice.
Les

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby AnnaLB » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:56 pm

Hi all! I have here a Healing that I found in the shed today. :) She's seen better days, and was found soaking upside down in a big puddle of spilled fertiliser. The handlebars were so rusty that one side fell off under the grip, and the metal under the seat is falling apart. The frame is pretty rusty, but looks worse as it's been painted with mission brown house paint. I think the paint/rust is too thick to find the serial numbers, but I'll have a look tomorrow now I know where they are. It needs stripping and re-painting, as there are rust bubbles all over, but I am confident that it won't be too tricky. Any guesses as to what year it is, without a serial number? I love the pedals, :D

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby AnnaLB » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:26 pm

Okay, so I found the serial number below the seat, this is the best photo I could get in the dark, but that's about as good as it is anyway. I think it says 91511. Can anyone suggest how I might find out model/age? Thanks a lot. :)

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby AnnaLB » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:43 pm

Also, is it normal for the serial number to be vertical? Most seem to be inside down...?

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Landie » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:52 pm

Hi everyone. First time poster here...

I own a very old Healing 28" ladies bike that I am very emotionally attached to. My dad brought it home, all dark green, some rust, unloved....it was 1966 and he told me that it was 70 years old at the time. It went to Eastwood Cycles in East Ringwood for a total refurbishment.....repainted with my name and phone number, new tyres, chain guard, elastic skirt guard for the rear wheel, new seat, basket. I loved it. Rode it to school (Form 1/Year 7) where I was a tiny girl riding a huge bike but I loved it....especially doing the big hill in Great Ryrie Street where I rode high on the pedals without stopping. Rode it all through high school, then up and down the hills of Launceston, Tasmania, where I did midwifery.

I have since had it done up twice but my husband has sabotaged my efforts, dismantled it, shoved it in the woodshed, hidden it under the house. He hates my bike but I love it. He bought me a Dunlop with all the gears but it wasn't the same and I gave it to my niece.

Now I want to get new tubes (the tyres are fine), spruce it up.....touch up and lacquer the existing body paintwork to preserve it.

I know there is a lot of paintwork so reading the numbers on the seat tube - looks like ? 4 111 and when I invert the bike the three numbers look like 97? I would have to strip layers of paint to get to confirm the first letter number before the 4 on the seat tube. And also the third digit on the frame underneath.

I now know that my dear dad's 70 years old could be a little out by a decade or so. (That was what he was told by the owner in 1966) It can't be 120 years old! But wonder if it is from the early 1900s. So leaving it to you experts. I will go to Abbotsford Cycles when I get a chance for an opinion regarding tubes, etc as I want to experience riding it again. So much fun and so tall in the saddle!!!!

http://aussievelos.net/healing-cycles/ has details on Healing bikes.

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby ldrcycles » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:41 am

1896 is definitely a smidge out, more like 1940s-50s. Perhaps he meant it looked like it was 70 years old on account of the rust :) .

Moruya Bicycles have all the old tyre and tube sizes available, yours will be either 28 x 1-3/8" (642mm) or 26 x 1-3/8" (also known as 650B or 27.5").
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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Paulfs67 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:08 pm

Not long ago finished restoring my late fathers Healing, was given to him just after he returned from WW2, was given to him by a uncle or cousin how used to race it in Casino in northern NSW, the forks are not period correct as the original is bent beyond repair but I have kept it and will get some new ones made and reuse the fork crown on day. Was laying underneath the house for about 30 years and had been through a few floods, had a lot of surface rust and a fair bit of pitting but only one tiny little rust hole.
The serial number is A78833, I think it is from the mid to late 30's, it is quite light coming in at 10kg, I think it has 531 tubing.
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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby LG » Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:20 pm

Wow, very nicely done! Beautiful looking bike, but even better is the family connection.
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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Paulfs67 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:38 am

Thanks LG, I'm really happy how it came up, it rides beautifully to boot

LG wrote:Wow, very nicely done! Beautiful looking bike, but even better is the family connection.

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Ferrovelo » Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:14 am

That looks great. Really nice job. Looks like it's got another generation or two of life left in at at least.
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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby utedeej » Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:23 am

:shock: that paint colour is great. Happy riding

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby old steel Bikes » Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:12 am

Great job can we get a break up of the parts.

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby Paulfs67 » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:07 pm

Part list for my Healing: ATP stem,original headset, unbranded bars ( very similar shape to the half original that was left), original seat post just gave it a clean and polish, Front hub BH Airlite, Ukai front rim 32 hole, rear hub BH Eureka, Dunlop rim 40 hole, Vee rubber 27 x 1,1/4 tires, Williams cranks, unbranded pedals, Brookes toe clips, Alpha One seat and bar tape. The colour is purple pearl and gold rush, decals from cyclomodia.

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby sharts » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:50 pm

Hello
I have a ladies Healing bike in reasonable condition. Its number stamped on the frame is 55943. How do I find out its approximate age?
Thanks.

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Re: HEALING frame number registry

Postby bicyclepassion » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:37 pm

#55943
We still do not have enough serial numbers to break the Healing code, so keep sending them in folks.
Its possible to give a reasonably accurate dating from the frame features, decals, and parts, if its all original.
What we really need is some bikes with original sales receipts, dated, with serial number recorded.
This is how we sorted the Malvern Star numbers to some degree.

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