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Postby stevebaby » Mon May 19, 2008 11:00 am

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Finished,almost.
Frame powdercoated.
Shimano 600 F & R derailleurs.
New chain.
Original Kusuki stem, polished
Kusuki bars from LBS
Original Golden Arrow series cranks and 42/52 chainrings.
Brooks saddle (ukbikestore.com $100 10 days delivery.)
New Shimano R500 wheels and 8 speed block.
New vittoria tyres (zeppiro? I forget the spelling)
Weinmann sidepulls w/QR NOS from ebay
MKS pedals from singletracking (Ta!)
Waiting for metal toeclips and straps to finish it.
Test ridden...and it goes very nicely. Just like a new bike, which it virtually is I suppose.
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Postby stevebaby » Mon May 19, 2008 11:01 am

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Postby 531db » Mon May 19, 2008 1:30 pm

stevendavid75 wrote:Hi all,
Having a look through one o my old mags I found a advert for Rapallo
in national cycling april, may 1981
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Cheers
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So Rapallo is actually an Australian frame builder then. I'll add it to my list.
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Postby 531db » Mon May 19, 2008 1:49 pm

stevebaby wrote:[img]Finished,almost.
Frame powdercoated.
Shimano 600 F & R derailleurs.
New chain.
Original Kusuki stem, polished
Kusuki bars from LBS
Original Golden Arrow series cranks and 42/52 chainrings.
Brooks saddle (ukbikestore.com $100 10 days delivery.)
New Shimano R500 wheels and 8 speed block.
New vittoria tyres (zeppiro? I forget the spelling)
Weinmann sidepulls w/QR NOS from ebay
MKS pedals from singletracking (Ta!)
Waiting for metal toeclips and straps to finish it.
Test ridden...and it goes very nicely. Just like a new bike, which it virtually is I suppose.


It's come up well, the steel toeclips and straps will improve the look no end.

The modern Shimano 500 wheels look somewhat out of place, a nice set of 32 or 36 hole hubs and flatter section rims with 3x spoking would really make the bike look nicer in a classic sense, but hey - it's your bike.

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Postby il padrone » Mon May 19, 2008 8:44 pm

531db wrote:It's come up well, the steel toeclips and straps will improve the look no end.

The modern Shimano 500 wheels look somewhat out of place, a nice set of 32 or 36 hole hubs and flatter section rims with 3x spoking would really make the bike look nicer in a classic sense, but hey - it's your bike.


Mmm looks very sweet. Good chainrings, but never heard of the Golden Arrow name?

Agree that the wheels are a bit out of place... and the hubs. No-one in the 80s had black hubs. Always polished or pearl anodised.
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Postby stevendavid75 » Mon May 19, 2008 10:20 pm

I have some black dura ace hubs from the crane vintage which might make it just pre 80's
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Postby Minority » Mon May 19, 2008 10:27 pm

Nice result!

You've got to pleased with that!

Now we need some close-ups.

And for the Shimano 105 "Golden Arrow" group check this out

http://www.velobase.com/ViewSingleCompo ... 5&AbsPos=5
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Rapallo

Postby stevebaby » Tue May 20, 2008 10:26 am

Unfortunately I had the rear dropouts cold set to take a 130mm hub so I'm stuck with fairly modern hubs. The 500s were always intended as a stopgap until I can decide whether to go 10 speed (and have the cash to upgrade the chainrings,chain and cassette.)
The bike was never intended to be a historically accurate restoration. Rather it's a reconstruction and I was mostly interested in getting an old bike back into service.( I do like the arabesque derailleurs though, and after 25 years they still work perfectly well even with an 8 speed block. I don't see why they wouldn't handle a 10 speed either. Maybe that will be the next project)
The toeclips arrived yesterday and they do look good but will look better with some new straps. More pics then.
The powdercoat looks OK but up close you can see the rippling effect that powdercoating has. Too late...I'm stuck with it now, but if (when) I fix up another old bike I'll probably shell out for a professional paint job and save powdercoating for MTBs.
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Re: Rapallo

Postby 531db » Tue May 20, 2008 12:18 pm

stevebaby wrote:Unfortunately I had the rear dropouts cold set to take a 130mm hub so I'm stuck with fairly modern hubs. The 500s were always intended as a stopgap until I can decide whether to go 10 speed (and have the cash to upgrade the chainrings,chain and cassette.)
The bike was never intended to be a historically accurate restoration. Rather it's a reconstruction and I was mostly interested in getting an old bike back into service.( I do like the arabesque derailleurs though, and after 25 years they still work perfectly well even with an 8 speed block. I don't see why they wouldn't handle a 10 speed either. Maybe that will be the next project)
The toeclips arrived yesterday and they do look good but will look better with some new straps. More pics then.
The powdercoat looks OK but up close you can see the rippling effect that powdercoating has. Too late...I'm stuck with it now, but if (when) I fix up another old bike I'll probably shell out for a professional paint job and save powdercoating for MTBs.


Unfortunately your Shimano 600 rear derailluer will not work with 9 or 10 speed cassettes/chains as the jockey wheels will be too thick for the 9/10 speed chains (and the derailleur cage plates too wide to correctly install 9/10 speed jockey wheels into the 600 RD). Things work OK now as 8 speed chains have the same internal width as the old 6 speed chains (although the outside width of 8 speed chains is narrower than 6 speed chains).

Best option for 'better' wheels will be locating a set of 32 or 36 hole 8 spd 130mm wide Ultegra hubs from the early 1990's and building them into appropriate rims, or a used complete wheelset of this kind in good condition. If you can't find them(hard to find good ones these days - I'm always looking for them as well), then 7 spd 126mm Shimano cassette or any other quality brand with a freewheel hubs with the axle spaced out 2mm each side (2mm of washers behind each locknut - recommended by Sheldon Brown and done by myself before) will do fine if you are willing to accept a 14 gear rather than 16 gear bike.

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Re: Rapallo

Postby stevebaby » Wed May 21, 2008 10:20 am

531db wrote:
stevebaby wrote:Unfortunately I had the rear dropouts cold set to take a 130mm hub so I'm stuck with fairly modern hubs. The 500s were always intended as a stopgap until I can decide whether to go 10 speed (and have the cash to upgrade the chainrings,chain and cassette.)
The bike was never intended to be a historically accurate restoration. Rather it's a reconstruction and I was mostly interested in getting an old bike back into service.( I do like the arabesque derailleurs though, and after 25 years they still work perfectly well even with an 8 speed block. I don't see why they wouldn't handle a 10 speed either. Maybe that will be the next project)
The toeclips arrived yesterday and they do look good but will look better with some new straps. More pics then.
The powdercoat looks OK but up close you can see the rippling effect that powdercoating has. Too late...I'm stuck with it now, but if (when) I fix up another old bike I'll probably shell out for a professional paint job and save powdercoating for MTBs.


Unfortunately your Shimano 600 rear derailluer will not work with 9 or 10 speed cassettes/chains as the jockey wheels will be too thick for the 9/10 speed chains (and the derailleur cage plates too wide to correctly install 9/10 speed jockey wheels into the 600 RD). Things work OK now as 8 speed chains have the same internal width as the old 6 speed chains (although the outside width of 8 speed chains is narrower than 6 speed chains).

Best option for 'better' wheels will be locating a set of 32 or 36 hole 8 spd 130mm wide Ultegra hubs from the early 1990's and building them into appropriate rims, or a used complete wheelset of this kind in good condition. If you can't find them(hard to find good ones these days - I'm always looking for them as well), then 7 spd 126mm Shimano cassette or any other quality brand with a freewheel hubs with the axle spaced out 2mm each side (2mm of washers behind each locknut - recommended by Sheldon Brown and done by myself before) will do fine if you are willing to accept a 14 gear rather than 16 gear bike.

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Thanks...that's saved me a lot of research. :)
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Postby bowie » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:11 am

Beautiful looking bike there 8)
b is for bicycle :D
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Postby stevebaby » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:02 pm

I'll have to post another pic...found a water bottle with almost the same colour as the frame.
I know, I know.... :lol:
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Postby Minority » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:02 pm

Another Australian Rapallo on the market!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... otohosting
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Postby aleg75 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:22 pm

Grrr, Apologies, I posted my message before I read a few posts above and you have already commented on the powder coat........any chance of some close up pics?????

p.s. nice looking bike! agree with one of the posts above though, needs classic style wheels! but thats just me.

p.s.s I have deleted my question r.e. powder coating.

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