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Centurion Appreciation Society
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby singlespeedscott » Sat May 18, 2013 6:47 pm
Mate that looks great. Looks a bit bigger than a 60 ctc to me. That frame must be pushing 24 1/2" c-t.rogerrabbit wrote:I have finally acquired a Centurion Professional after looking for 5 years. This is a 60cm ctc so exactly the right size for me. It is a 1972 model made in Mexico by Windsor. This was the first model Centurion ever made as far as I know, and is effectively a rebadged Windsor Professional, which is a Cinelli SC copy. The later Centurion Pro from Japan in the later 1970's was very much the same and also a Cinelli SC copy. I know of only one other of these in the USA (Mine is shipping from the USA). Centurion was a US brand, with the frames mostly made in Japan with the exception of these very early frames. I don't know what happened with Centurion between 1973 and 1975, and I have never seen any. it may be that those 2 years were taken preparing to bring the Japanese sourced range to market.
This one has had 2 owners that were friends. I am told the bike is original apart from saddle, bar tape and other consumables. Notably no Centurion downtube decals and apparently there never were any. This is also the case on the other one of these I have seen.
I look forward to your finished pictures. I am sure it will come up a cracker like all your others.
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby rogerrabbit » Sat May 18, 2013 8:37 pm
It will be a few months to restore. The frame may go to the UK for a stove enamelled finish by Argos or Mercian, which is very hard wearing.
Cheers
Roger
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby singlespeedscott » Sat May 18, 2013 8:56 pm
I would have thought a 60cm c-c would equal around 61cm or 24" c-t.rogerrabbit wrote:Um, 60cm ctc is about exactly 24.5" ctt . So you are spot on.
It will be a few months to restore. The frame may go to the UK for a stove enamelled finish by Argos or Mercian, which is very hard wearing.
Cheers
Roger
I have always believed the c-c measurement for seat tubes to be a useless way to determine bicycle size.
Wouldn't it be cheaper to send your frame to Star Enamellers or Joe Cosgrove for a repaint?
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby rogerrabbit » Sat May 18, 2013 9:13 pm
I have had a few frames sprayed by Star. They have a nice but fragile paint that chips very easily. Stoved enamel is long lasting and hard. I also go to the UK regularly so no freight cost, and the paint job is actually cheaper at Mercian or Argos too.
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby singlespeedscott » Sat May 18, 2013 10:10 pm
Interesting.rogerrabbit wrote: I have had a few frames sprayed by Star. They have a nice but fragile paint that chips very easily. Stoved enamel is long lasting and hard. I also go to the UK regularly so no freight cost, and the paint job is actually cheaper at Mercian or Argos too.
What sort of prices do they charge?
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby rogerrabbit » Sat May 18, 2013 10:25 pm
http://www.merciancycles.co.uk/renovation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Argos is about the same
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby singlespeedscott » Sat May 18, 2013 10:46 pm
Why are they so cheap? Or more to the point, why do we pay so much for frame painting in Australia?
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby familyguy » Mon May 20, 2013 10:27 am
Spectacular, Roger. I'm guessing it was a long and chancy search? The early Centurions were much, much more of a quality bicycle than some of the later bike boom stuff they put their name to. Aside from yours, I've not seen any other quality early ones over here.rogerrabbit wrote:I have finally acquired a Centurion Professional after looking for 5 years. This is a 60cm ctc so exactly the right size for me. It is a 1972 model made in Mexico by Windsor. This was the first model Centurion ever made as far as I know, and is effectively a rebadged Windsor Professional, which is a Cinelli SC copy. The later Centurion Pro from Japan in the later 1970's was very much the same and also a Cinelli SC copy. I know of only one other of these in the USA (Mine is shipping from the USA). Centurion was a US brand, with the frames mostly made in Japan with the exception of these very early frames. I don't know what happened with Centurion between 1973 and 1975, and I have never seen any. it may be that those 2 years were taken preparing to bring the Japanese sourced range to market.
This one has had 2 owners that were friends. I am told the bike is original apart from saddle, bar tape and other consumables. Notably no Centurion downtube decals and apparently there never were any. This is also the case on the other one of these I have seen.
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby rogerrabbit » Mon May 20, 2013 12:34 pm
I did acquire a Centurion branded Semi-Pro in a large size locally a couple of years ago, but that may have also been imported by someone.
Centurion was a US brand and mostly were in the US in the 70's.
I think the 1972 version was probably US only, and I suspect was very low volume with only the Pro model as far as I know.
Cheers
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby muzzie » Wed May 22, 2013 10:34 pm
Ive since got it sand plasted and powder coated white. In Retro-spect I wouldnt have. Its still running the full 105.
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby muzzie » Wed May 22, 2013 10:43 pm
Its my main road bike and I love it, done about 1000km on it since the re spray, love the suicide shifting in traffic!
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby rkelsen » Thu May 23, 2013 12:53 pm
Congrats on the find. It looks to be in pretty good condition for a 40yo.rogerrabbit wrote:I have finally acquired a Centurion Professional after looking for 5 years. This is a 60cm ctc so exactly the right size for me.
I probably wouldn't do much other than clean, lube and replace consumables. And then ride...
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby rogerrabbit » Thu May 23, 2013 1:54 pm
Well packed at first glance. I will be able to unpack it tonight
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby sled » Thu May 23, 2013 7:13 pm
rogerrabbit wrote:The Centurion Pro has arrived. 6 days from Minneapolis door to door!
Well packed at first glance. I will be able to unpack it tonight
Pics Mr Rabbit
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby rogerrabbit » Thu May 23, 2013 8:50 pm
The bike apparently has its original parts, apart from brake levers, stem (extra tall version), saddle, chain, freewheel, pads, rear rim/spokes. All the campagnolo parts are very clean and it has early logo Christophe toeclips too.
I have communicated with the previous owner, who bought it off his friend, who bought it new.
It definitely needs a respray, sadly. The paint is a solid orange, rather than the later metallic orange, and with the relative lack of decals and the mint chrome it will be relatively straight forward.
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby LugNut » Thu May 23, 2013 9:01 pm
Super, super nice. It's good to know that a bicycle like this is in the right hands, I can't wait to see this one fastidiously restored. Original matte orange, metallic orange, or different colour entirely?rogerrabbit wrote:Since you asked
Or maybe just keep us hanging until after the UK trip, it will be worth the wait.
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
Postby munga » Thu May 23, 2013 10:39 pm
may we all have the patience to build bikes as nicely.
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society
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