Centurion Appreciation Society

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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby singlespeedscott » Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:30 pm

Nothing average about Tange 2.
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby tyliftw » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:29 pm

Gee, this thread is getting rather quiet. Better get things started again!

My Centurion Triathlon Master, built up less than an hour ago. Tange 1 tubing, Ultegra 6500 9 speed group with some Mavic Open 4 CD rims laced up to DA 7403 hubs. Going to be my #2 bike, something I can commute or ride in the wet with.

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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby Rob74 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:43 pm

re tyliftw » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:29 pm
It rides again? if so fantastic. Whats the weight now?

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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby tyliftw » Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:27 pm

Yep, that's the same frame. Grabbed it off QV, built it up. Weighs around 10 - 11kgs as of now, wire-beard tyres and 32 spoke wheels aren't the lightest!
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby bhktsox » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:46 am

Hi all new to the forum. So I picked up a 1972 Centurion Pro a few weeks ago and have a few questions. This seems to be the only place I can find a picture of the one I have and some info. So mine is the same color red as the one back a few pages the only difference in it is the build. Mine has Gold Campi brakes and levers? I was told by one guy that this was a upgrade for Centurion only at the time but not sure. Other than the brakes the bike is identical to the one pictured a few pages back. If any body has any info on the brakes and production numbers of how many of these bikes were branded Centurion that would be awesome. All so wondering if the lugs were Cinelli or Cinelli knock offs? My understanding was that at this time that lug was patented by Cinelli and they only made them and sold them to other companies to use. Was this the case or were they just full on knock offs that Windsor sourced and used? Any info would be awesome. Cheers
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby rogerrabbit » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:36 pm

Hi, I have PM'd you with my number to give me a call, but suspect you may not be in Oz.

The 72 Pro is, as you suspect, a rebadged Windsor Pro. They are a high quality frame with Columbus SL tubing throughout. I have an original 1972 Centurion catalog showing the Pro model. The original brakes were Universal 68, with a longer reach on the rear. Mine has almost all it's original parts. You can also get the correct replica Centurion fork decal (the only decal apart from bands on the frame) from Cyclomondo on eBay. This decal was produced from the original off my bike.

An upgrade to Campag brakes would have been quite likely, but would probably have been done by the dealer, not by Centurion. The Centurion was not a big seller at the time, with no "brand" behind it, so dealers may have done special deals to move it along.

There are stories that the guys who made the Windsor frames were originally established to make "Cinelli" frames in Mexico, with key staff coming from Cinelli. True or not, I can't tell. They are a nicely made frame, and while the lugs are a copy, they are not exactly the same as Cinelli. While Cinelli may have had a patent, I doubt it extended to Mexico :). The fact that Windsor kept using the design for a number of years implies either the patent wasn't strong, or Cinelli didn't really care, or there was some deal between the two companies. Centurion only used the Windsor for the Pro model for a year in 1972, maybe into 1973, and then had the Japanese version from 1976 to 1980, which is again a Cinelli copy and very similar but not identical to the Windsor. The Japanese ones had vertical rear dropouts and Tange 1 tubing. Again beautifully made. I have been hunting for an early Japanese one (76-78) in 24.5" or 25.5" for about 5 years now.

Please post some pics of yours, or email them to me (I will PM you my email) and I can post them on the forum for you.

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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby rogerrabbit » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:06 pm

I just went back through the posts. Bhktsox, Is it the red one or the orange one that is like yours? The red one is a later Japanese one, easily distinguished by the cutout bottom bracket.

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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby bicicletero1618 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:59 am

I am new to the forum. I am from Mexico and I want that information helped me find out about my bike. Best wishes.
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby bicicletero1618 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:03 am

my bike is an old centurion. can you help me, not like enclosing picture
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby rogerrabbit » Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:00 pm

Here are some pics of the bike Bhktsox posted about a few days ago. It is a 1972 Centurion Pro. Note the unusual gold anodised early version Campagnolo Record brakes.
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby singlespeedscott » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:01 pm

rogerrabbit wrote:Here are some pics of the bike Bhktsox posted about a few days ago. It is a 1972 Centurion Pro. Note the unusual gold anodised early version Campagnolo Record brakes.
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Upside down Miss Jane :lol:
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby singlespeedscott » Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:03 pm

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I've posted it up before but given the Centurion name was changed to Diamondback in the early 90's I thought this was as good a thread as any.
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby rogerrabbit » Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:42 pm

Not upside down now... That was weird. They were up the right way to start with, upside down this morning, and the right way up again now :lol:
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby rogerrabbit » Mon Aug 25, 2014 10:14 pm

Upside down on the phone, but right way up on my computer. That is a cool trick!
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Re: Centurion Appreciation Society

Postby 8Track » Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:10 am

Hi all,

Knowing that Centurion changed its name to Diamondback in 1991, here is a 1991 Diamondback Interval TG which I restored for my wife. This is the first restoration I have ever done. Hope you like it!

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