Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Sirdung » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:03 pm

I have found few serials numbers 5M10029 1M2863 RC1F or possibly RG1F do any of these mean anything to you? Thanks heaps!

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby lukebartlett » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:18 am

bicyclepassion wrote:5 star 21813: Frame number under bottom bracket is unusual, but probably just means it is a custom 5 star, and probably not built at the Malvern Star factory. I wouldn't be surprised if this is an earlier frame, (early 1950's) rebuilt/re configured in the early 1960's. The Headfittings, brakes, paint colour and scheme, and small scroll decals all suggest early 1960's.
Most of the custom road bikes by the 1960's had cast Campagnolo, or similar, fork ends by then.
Pull the forks out and see if there is another number stamped on the steerer tube. Have a look on the steerer, and under the crown race, for evidence of previous paint and maybe a different colour.
Have a look for a date code under the seat (If it is a Brooks). (Not that that will be conclusive for dating the frame).
Have a look inside BB shell for evidence of previous paint.

Warren



Cheers Warren, i'll open it up! :D

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Arreis » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:50 pm

Can anyone help with this skidstar frame? I can't find any serial numbers, it looks like the BB had a number at some stage but it's now illegible.
It seems oldish, but the star is a plastic stick on the same as seen in the 80's. i spent some time removing the remnants of a previous rattle can paint job. Lugs are all fairly plain, bottom bracket oiler has a flip top lid. Rear wheel has Sachs coaster brake hub. 22 tooth cog i think. Trying to decide of i should just chuck back on the wheels and seat, source some bars and ride it, or rebuild as a cruiser.

Edit: sorry, just realised this ' s probably the wrong thread as i don't have a serial number. Any tips on lifting a faint serial number like this?

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby feelthewheel » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:35 am

Hi Arreis, welcome to the forum. I think your bicycle was made in the mid/late 1960's at a guess. If it was mine, I'd keep it as a rat-ride and get it back on the road. Just make sure you check (or have it checked out) that the frame is sound, looks like its had a hard life.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Arreis » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:59 am

Cheers. Yeah, i was definitely leaning that way too. The rust is all superficial and the forks and tubes all seem straight apart from the drive side chainstay which has a smallish dent directly underneath the chainring clearance indent. It should be ok if i keep an eye on it.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Sabby » Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:44 pm

Hi hope you may be able to help me :) our old miss marple bike has what is 5M 8056 on the frame by the seat, it's a real beauty the paint work on it . Wish I could add pics :). Thanks in advance for any help you may have

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby utedeej » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:05 pm

Sabby wrote:Hi hope you may be able to help me :) our old miss marple bike has what is 5M 8056 on the frame by the seat, it's a real beauty the paint work on it . Wish I could add pics :). Thanks in advance for any help you may have


You need an external site to host your pics like photobucket or something. Directions in this link.

http://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=23303

Everyone loves a picture on the forum :)

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Tinker » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:03 pm

Sabby wrote:Hi hope you may be able to help me :) our old miss marple bike has what is 5M 8056 on the frame by the seat, it's a real beauty the paint work on it . Wish I could add pics :). Thanks in advance for any help you may have


Made in Melbourne in 1945 :)

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby maccayak » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:34 am

Arreis wrote:Can anyone help with this skidstar frame? I can't find any serial numbers, it looks like the BB had a number at some stage but it's now illegible.
It seems oldish, but the star is a plastic stick on the same as seen in the 80's. i spent some time removing the remnants of a previous rattle can paint job. Lugs are all fairly plain, bottom bracket oiler has a flip top lid. Rear wheel has Sachs coaster brake hub. 22 tooth cog i think. Trying to decide of i should just chuck back on the wheels and seat, source some bars and ride it, or rebuild as a cruiser.

Edit: sorry, just realised this ' s probably the wrong thread as i don't have a serial number. Any tips on lifting a faint serial number like this?



I have a couple frames the same and they are 67/68 vintage but skidstars with that paint style were made into the early 70's. Skidstars normally had 3 speed rear wheels. The serial number is next to the rear wheel drop out, drive side.

Decal kits are being developed for the restoration of these skidstars.

Cheers Geoff

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Sabby » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:29 am


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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Arreis » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:15 pm

maccayak wrote:
Arreis wrote:Can anyone help with this skidstar frame? I can't find any serial numbers, it looks like the BB had a number at some stage but it's now illegible.
It seems oldish, but the star is a plastic stick on the same as seen in the 80's. i spent some time removing the remnants of a previous rattle can paint job. Lugs are all fairly plain, bottom bracket oiler has a flip top lid. Rear wheel has Sachs coaster brake hub. 22 tooth cog i think. Trying to decide of i should just chuck back on the wheels and seat, source some bars and ride it, or rebuild as a cruiser.

Edit: sorry, just realised this ' s probably the wrong thread as i don't have a serial number. Any tips on lifting a faint serial number like this?



I have a couple frames the same and they are 67/68 vintage but skidstars with that paint style were made into the early 70's. Skidstars normally had 3 speed rear wheels. The serial number is next to the rear wheel drop out, drive side.

Decal kits are being developed for the restoration of these skidstars.

Cheers Geoff


Thanks. I couldn't see a SN near the dropout, but i'll have a closer look.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Arreis » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:17 pm



Lovely looking bike!

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby BallaratBike » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:48 pm

Hi! Could I get some advice regarding the serial number on a Malvern Star 2 star frame I have. The serial number stamped on the seat tube is 57R576. I am assuming it might be 1957. Is that correct? And what would the "R" in this serial number signify? Any help would be much appreciated. I have photographs on Photobucket. http://s1044.photobucket.com/user/ainae ... 202%20Star

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:02 pm

57R576:
I am not sure about this one, but my impressions are:
Made in Japan?
A lot later than 1957.
Rear brake bridge would suggest 1970's.

Someone else jump in for this one please, its outside of my Malvern Star knowledge.

Warren.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby BallaratBike » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:48 pm

Thanks Warren. It does have Made in Germany stamped on the rear brake bridge if this helps anybody work this one out.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Rhedyn » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:39 am

Was hoping you could give some info I have a two star with a four digit frame the number is 2387 still has a number plate

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby 240ZR » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:50 am

I have a Sid Patterson 4 star track bike with the number 3805 stamped on the rear drop out, can anyone help with the year?? Thanx

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:23 pm

Sid Patterson 4 star #3805:
Does it have an '0' in front of it, as in 03805.
In any case it will be a semi racer, not a track bike, long ish wheelbase, normal bike tubing, not 531, and usually drilled for brakes.
Probably built between 1960 and 1964.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby 240ZR » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:57 pm

Thanx for the reply. I have someone interested in buying it but want's to know how old it is before he commits. I told him it's around mid 60's but wants confirmation so I'll forward him this post.
There's no 0 in front of the number, just the 4 digits & yes, it's drilled for brakes.
Thanx again for ur quick reply.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:36 pm

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bicyclepassion » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:30 pm

Yes this is an early 1960's semi racer. Note even has mudguard brackets incorporated in the brake bridge. These came standard with 27 inch wheels and steel rims. Well worth saving but certainly no track bike, and quite heavy.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bsaboy » Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:53 pm

hello i have a malvern star 2 star with numbers 1M 8304 need help with what year please..

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Tinker » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:44 pm

bsaboy wrote:hello i have a malvern star 2 star with numbers 1M 8304 need help with what year please..


Made in Melbourne in 1941.

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby bsaboy » Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:37 pm

thank you for that Tinker so 1M is Melbourne and serial number 8304 = 1941
cool thanks for that..!!

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Re: Pre 1930 Malvern Star serial numbers

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:26 pm

bsaboy wrote:thank you for that Tinker so 1M is Melbourne and serial number 8304 = 1941
cool thanks for that..!!


1 is the year (for a MS produced in the 1940s)
M is for a Melbourne manufacture
8304 is the frame number (presumably for Melbourne builds) for that year.
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