couple of oldies to identify

[Russ e]

gday all, first time poster, im into ebikes/trikes myself. sorry to be so forward with my first post but i have to start somewhere.

a mate is going through his shed and digging out stuff, some of which he has asked me to help him identify, hence my question, does anyone know what age brand etc these could be? thank muchly for any help given.

[funnybike]

That's the new SRAM Red brake, isn't it?

[silentbutdeadly]

That's the new SRAM Red brake, isn't it?

Something so needlessly complicated could only be Campagnolo... Or not. Love the rattle can gold/whitewash combo...

No idea. Though the BMX softly sings 'Kuwahara' at me for some reason...then again it could just as easily be mumbling 'K-Mart'

[LG]

I was about to say it looks like British engineering .

That gold frame looks like it could be at least 50s, possibly earlier and I quite like the look of that 3 pin crank set. Chasing one for my old Viking.

[bicyclepassion]

The gold bike looks early to mid 1930's to me. The Williams 3 pin cranks may have a date code. Check the back of the chainwheel.
If you can, sand the paint back carefully with wet and dry and see if there are any decals underneath.
Warren

[WyvernRH]

The brake looks like a pre-war Phillips "Agrippa" to me?
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/components/agrippa-components.html
I have two fronts that mount directly to the fork blades like this one. There was another model that was designed for the more modern bolt thru the fork crown mounting.
I've never seen a rear version.
Cheers
Richard

[rollin]

The bmx is a cheapy, reliance or similar..
Department store Mongoose copy although the early front gusset mongooses didn't come with a loop tail..

[silverlight]

The golden bike looks to be around the lateish 20's / early 30's.
Like WyvernRH i have the similar brake which mounts on to the forks, I believe the brakes are quite hard to come by and work very well.
It dosent appear to be a high end build but in saying that it presents well.

Sorry, cant help on the BMX

[Russ e]

thanks everyone, i will show him your responses next time he is here there could be something stamped on the sprocket of the gold bike, i did look but not that closely to be sure if it was stamped or just marked. the bmx type bike he thinks is the same as from the movie ET i havnt seen ET so no idea lol

[jimmy boy]

The BMX is definitely not a Kuwahara ET. If it was I'd be sending you a PM!

As stated above it's just a K-Mart cheapy mate. Perfect candidate for the scrap-metal bin.