The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby Torana68 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:28 am

Bates "Repco" club sport
frame 2542 forks 882 = 3424 ( I expected better but its not much lighter than a Speedwell roadster frame :cry: ) I note the 5 Star owners are still too embarrassed to post up :D
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The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby singlespeedscott » Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:57 am

Dan wrote:I've never seen an SLX frame that light - amazing.


It's such a nice frame to ride too. Unfortunately it really to small for me.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby singlespeedscott » Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:00 am

Torana68 wrote:Bates "Repco" club sport
frame 2542 forks 882 = 3424 ( I expected better but its not much lighter than a Speedwell roadster frame :cry: ) I note the 5 Star owners are still too embarrassed to post up :D
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The lugless 5 star I once had was, from memory , around 2100g. Not bad for a 24" frame, built in 1949!
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby william.olive » Sat Sep 14, 2013 1:22 pm

Just got my Jim Bundy frame back from Peter Bundy, after he brazed in a new set of rear tips. On my none too accurate kitchen scales it came in a 2,000 and 680 for the frame and forks. Not sure of date made or the tube material, but 700C rims and aero levers says late 80s and probably some sort of columbus tubes.

I thought it felt a little lighter, but perhaps that's only in comparison to my Superlite.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby lloyd83 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:50 am

Serotta Legend Ti, 349th produced so I'm guessing circa 1994/95 unless someone more informed knows.

Frameset 57square, triple butted: 1360g with CK headset & barrel adjusters
Uncut Reynolds Ouzo: 420g

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby freshpatents » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:04 pm

Hi,
Thought I'd add a couple more:

Bare frame: Detto Pietro fully chromed, mid 1980's, Columbus something or other, 54cm = 1919 grams
matching fork, full chrome = 683 grams


Bare frame: Hetchins "Magnum Bonum", late 1950's, reynolds 531, 53cm seat tube, 55cm tt = 1984 grams
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby Minority » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:18 pm

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Frame only 1850g, forks are not of the same quality but were the only full chrome ones I had that sort of matched.
No Idea what the tubing is (or who the manufacturer is), but it is nice a shiny :D
One day I'll get around to building it.
Didn't look so promising when I found it.:

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Battaglin, Columbus Aelle tubing, frame only 2150g

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby singlespeedscott » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:05 am

[quote="Minority
Battaglin, Columbus Aelle tubing, frame only 2150g

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I like the Campagnbolo Victory groupset. A seriously underated group in mind.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby Velo13 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:35 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:I like the Campagnbolo Victory groupset. A seriously underated group in mind.


Yep, if you raced, you had to have Record back then.

Just like everyone now thinks they need Red, or DA now (when 105, Ult or Rival are just fine).
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby singlespeedscott » Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:41 pm

Actually that was the market Campagnolo was aiming Victory at when it was introduced.

Victory was supposed to replace Nuovo Record whilst Record, what we now call C Record was meant to replace Super Record.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby sumgy » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:34 pm

Concorde Prelude and matching fork
60cm C-T seat tube, 58cm C-C top tube
PRX tubing.

Frame - 2120g
Fork - 640g

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby TedDancin » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:00 pm

Jim Bundy built Lennie Rogers 60cm frame in Reynolds 531 - Frame 2170g Fork 800g. Both bare plus a few too many coats of enamel. Will put up some pictures after I've put it together.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby QuangVuong » Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:30 pm

Oh, so have you got it painted up Josh?

Anyway, heres a bunch.
54cm square Kestrel 200 frame weighs in at 1225g with the original Kestrel carbon 500g fork
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53cm square Kestrel 4000 at 1645g with the matching aluminium Tange fork at 535g
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53cm square Peugeot Carbon Pro suprisingly only 1300g with the original SLX fork at 665g. I only found out it was SLX from the rifling when I had a look up the fork hole.
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57 square Bundy frame with some sort of Columbus at 1930g with a SLX fork at 680g
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57ST/59TT Centurion Triahlon Master(Tange 1) at 2.3kg with the original 700g fork.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby jonbays » Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:05 pm

For old Raleigh fans a few sobering facts.

For all those with old Nottingham built Raleigh's from Europa to Gran Prix with the classic wrap around seat stays, stamped steel ends and the forks with the front headlamp mount screw boss on the right hand fork blade I stripped down one and measured the frame at 2570 grams and forks at 840 grams. Classics they are but not lightweights. Fully built up as a 10 speed with alloy wheels and cottorless cranks its still 13.8KG

Interested to compare to a Raleigh Professional I have which is a 531 frame & forks Worksop built with the CC cut out in the bottom bracket cast ends with no mudguard eyelets etc. Measure the bare frame at 1920 gram and forks at 750 gram. Not as much difference as you would think. All built up as a 12 speed with alloy singles and alloy cottorless cranks it's still 10.6Kg all up.

Makes you realise there has been some progress in bicycles over the last 40 years.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby Typhoon Ken » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:26 pm

Vitus 55 cm square - Super Vitus 980 - Frame 1760, Fork (Chromed) 650.

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby Stuey » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:55 pm

This frame bought off the forum a while back, unknown manufacture, Columbus dropouts, looks like decent build, 1840g frame, 650g fork, 54cm square.

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby Rob74 » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:48 pm

1988/89 REPCO Victory Tria Black & White
Tange Infinity CrMo Tapered Double Butted Tubing
555 Seat Tube
560 Top Tube
Frame - 2120g
Fork - 840g

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby singlespeedscott » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:47 pm

1984, 23",c-t, Repco Olympic 12. Apparently Tange 2 tubing. Tange fork from supposedly Hi-Ten tubing -

Frame - 2280g
Fork - 830g

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby singlespeedscott » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:50 pm

198-, 23",c-t, Ricardo Nuovo. Tange 2 tubing. Tange Champion cr-mo fork -

Frame - 2060g
Fork - 660g

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby Imwit » Sat May 10, 2014 5:16 pm

Ciombola 55cm Dedaccai EOM 16.5 tubing. 1592g.
It had a Columbus Carve carbon fork (about 560 g with crown race) but will soon have an all chrome number (which is about 810g :( seems a bit of a mismatch but will do for now)

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What is with the drop outs? Lugged as well.

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby QuangVuong » Sat May 10, 2014 6:47 pm

Kenevans Profile. Probably Columbus SL. It weighs 1.94kg with a 0.65kg fork.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby bikinbruce » Thu May 15, 2014 12:56 am

Sorenson Reynolds 653 frame from sometime in the early 90's, Reynolds website has a date range of 91-94 for the tubing, previous owner stripped the chorus stuff of it before ebaying it.
49 cm CC seattube
52.5 cm Top tube
126 rear OLD
Frame 1760g
Fork 640g
Total 2.4K

Now just need to get a headset & front rim to do the build up from the spares laying about.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby cotterpin » Fri May 16, 2014 4:08 pm

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Old stock Reynolds 531, Nervex lugs.

Frame 1855g. Fork 720g.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby rogerrabbit » Sun May 18, 2014 3:25 pm

A.S. Gillott 1952 60cm ctc. Frame 1960g and fork 730g for 2.96kg frame and fork.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby rangersac » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:12 am

Claud Butler 1984 Sovereign Reynolds 531 23.5 inch
Frame: 2.4kg
Fork: 800g

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