The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby rkelsen » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:03 pm

jonbays wrote:Interested to compare to a Raleigh Professional I have which is a 531 frame & forks Worksop built with the CC cut out in the bottom bracket cast ends with no mudguard eyelets etc. Measure the bare frame at 1920 gram and forks at 750 gram.

Same as my Carlton built frame. Dunno which model it is, but it is 531 built in 1979. The size is 23.5".
jonbays wrote:Not as much difference as you would think. All built up as a 12 speed with alloy singles and alloy cottorless cranks it's still 10.6Kg all up

Racing weight in its day. How much did Merckx's hour record bike weigh?

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Postby ldrcycles » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:08 pm

rkelsen wrote:Racing weight in its day. How much did Merckx's hour record bike weigh?


5.5kg :shock: .
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby sli123 » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:25 pm

1985 Apollo V naked....
Total weight 3.0kg

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Postby QuangVuong » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:35 pm

Unknown 54ST/55TT frame weighs in at 1825g with a 650g fork
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Piaggio Bianchi Sport SS 56.5 square. 3.2kg frame and fork with headset.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby Rob74 » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:31 pm

1998 Apollo Summit MTB Sport
Genuine OS MTB Tube Gas Pipe
Frame Sticker Says ' Medium 18" '
420 Seat Tube C-C (450 C - T)
545 Top Tube C-C
440 Rear Stays
Frame - 3160g
Fork - 1080g

(Re-purposed as the new off Bike MTB Wheel Truing Stand)

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Postby cycles gitane » Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:41 pm

Blucher Köln built by/for Mascot cycles in Richmond Vic.
I have been told these frames were built by Kerry Hopkins, can any one confirm?

Reynolds 531 Competition 57cm C-C
Frame: approx. 1980g minus 190g for Record BB = 1790g
Fork: 698g
My scale has a maximum measure of 2000g

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Due for a rebuild with Chorus 8 speed.

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Postby munga » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:17 pm

so good! love the paint.

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby cycles gitane » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:33 pm

Raleigh Yukon MTB frame and fork (Reynolds 501tubes): About 4kg (weighed on the bathroom scales)
Surprised the frame weighed so much, built to survive rather than crumple. Built in UK.
Could be late 80's/early 90's, need to look for the catalogue.

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Postby Kermit TF » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:37 pm

Found this excellent table on the US forums whilst researching Ishiwata...the Frame forum I read gave the ishiwatas a huge wrap and rated them equal to most of the Columbus frames in weight and workmanship. Veeery Interestink
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby tooslowtorace » Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:03 pm

1996 Sirius Salvo 653, 54cm

Frame 1810
Fork 640

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1993 Raleigh Lightweight, 531C, 52cm

Frame 1695
Fork 625

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Postby ldrcycles » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:04 pm

Tom Wallace Special, age unknown, maybe 60s at a guess. The fork tubes are stamped as Durifort and it has unbranded Nervex looking lugs (maybe they are Nervex?). 56cm top tube. Rides very nicely but the BB area in particular is very flexy.

Frame- 2083g
Forks- 815.2g



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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby yugyug » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:14 pm

Reynolds 501 frame and fork
Seat tube: 53cm c­t­c (54.5cm c­ to top), top tube: 54 cm c­tc
Frame 1982g
Forks 674g

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Postby Typhoon Ken » Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:16 pm

Chesini Precision 56cm - Columbus SL

Frame 1915
Fork 720
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby Rob74 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:53 pm

1993 Apollo MTB
Tange MTB CrMo
Double Butted Tubing
480 Seat Tube C-C
560 Top Tube C-C
620 Down Tube C-C
515 Rear Stays
425Chain Stay
Frame - 2480g
Fork - 900g

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby silentbutdeadly » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:24 pm

Pulled down the circa 1970's Super Elliot in a spare hour over the weekend

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56 cm top tube and seat tube

Frame weight is 2770 grams
Fork weight is 872 grams
Ours is not to reason why...merely to point and giggle

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The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby singlespeedscott » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:49 am

1981 Kuwahara built Apollo V - Tange 2 - seat tube 59cm c-t, top tube 57 c-c

Frame - chromed stays under paint. Headset cups in place - 2160g
Fork - full chrome under paint with headset race - 800g

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby utedeej » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:21 pm

Pegasus by Keith Davis. Unknown tubing, but I understand he was a bit of a Reynolds specialist.

57cm c-c top tube and seat tube.

Forks 631grams
Frame1812grams

Pics to come soon of it built up.

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Postby singlespeedscott » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:14 pm

utedeej wrote:Pegasus by Keith Davis. Unknown tubing, but I understand he was a bit of a Reynolds specialist.

57cm c-c top tube and seat tube.

Forks 631grams
Frame1812grams

Pics to come soon of it built up.

At that weight it couldn't possible be 531. Maybe it's 531Professional or 753?
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby utedeej » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:21 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:
utedeej wrote:Pegasus by Keith Davis. Unknown tubing, but I understand he was a bit of a Reynolds specialist.

57cm c-c top tube and seat tube.

Forks 631grams
Frame1812grams

Pics to come soon of it built up.

At that weight it couldn't possible be 531. Maybe it's 531Professional or 753?


A mate of mine who is a Pegasus lover thinks that it is 753 also. He has a 753 stickered Pegasus.

I was v surprised at the weight.

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby tooslowtorace » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:53 pm

Fork weight is almost exactly the same as my 531 (653) forks.

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby LG » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:46 pm

57cm Columbus Nemo tubed roadie from 1997 with teardrop down tube = fork - 725g, frame - 1850g, total - 2575g.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby swin1 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:36 am

I have a couple of steel bikes with 58cm top tubes and think anything that is 2kg or below is ideal, a bit heavier for touring. A lot of steel road frames with branded tubing are much heavier than the tubing type suggests which can be frustrating when not advertised. Here are bare weights of some frames I have or used in the past - most of them Australian:

Paconi early 1990s 57cm (Reynolds 653): 1,750g frame / 695g fork. Typical weight for a good frame made with 653 tubing.

Dave Yates (UK) 2001 56cm (Reynolds 631): 1,850g frame / 695g fork. An audax frame with double eyelets, rack mounts and pump peg. Really light frame for its intended use.

Europa/Technotrat late 1980s 55cm (Falck): 1,990g frame / 780g fork. A bit heavy for for its size for a road frame.

Paconi early 1990s 58cm (Reynolds 531c): 2,000g frame / 695g fork. Also a light frame set with light touring in mind. Typical 25.4mm top tube and 28.6mm seat/down tubes.

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Salsa Casseroll 2009 58cm (CrMo): 2,050g frame / 850g fork. This is a very light frame set for 4130 and its strength and oversize tubes, much lighter than a Surly equivalent.

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Schwinn Paramount 1972 58cm (Reynolds 531): 2,100g frame / 750g fork. Great riding frame and good weight for its vintage.

Cecil Walker 1975 56cm (Reynolds 531): 2,400g, frame / 880g fork. This a straight gauge tubeset, sort of heavy but not bad for 1970s and rides nice.

ProTour 1980s 58cm (Tange No.5): 2,600g frame / 800g fork. Heavy frame but lightish fork, rode pretty well but not as nicely as a lighter frame.

On One Inbred 29er 21" (CrMo): 2,600g frame. Fast frame but just felt heavy (suspension forks were about 1,900g).

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby Roisin79 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:21 am

Off-topic Swin1, but what paint did you use to get that top finish on the Paconi?

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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby ldrcycles » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:54 pm

Roisin79 wrote:Off-topic Swin1, but what paint did you use to get that top finish on the Paconi?


Joe Cosgrove i would bet.
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Re: The Bare Frame and Fork Weight Thread

Postby coldst » Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:16 am

1987 Shogun Katana Tange infinity triple triangle. 63 ST, 56 TT

fork: 865gg
frame: 2431g

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1984 Apollo IV 56cm Kuwahara Tange 900 frame + fork + headset 3180g

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