Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

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Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby nigel1963 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:52 pm

Retiring the 1980 Raleigh Rapide 531 plain gauge to a wet weather machine. (Suntour superbe brakes, rear derailier, hubs, Mavic hard anodized rims (1985), shimano 600 cranks(1982?), down bar shifters, some original bits....) Bar one LBS visit, I've done the maintenance. Not ridden much in the last 8 years, but that is changing. Wife says I can get the new bike that was supposed to be in exchange for the engagement ring. 20+ years ago. Running, ducking, weaving.
I have acquired subject steel fame in GC, and have started to purchase bits. Perhaps not a true retro, but will suit me.
Running gear Campag Athena (all silver alloy of course)
Would appreciate some advice regarding these new-fangled bits:
- Head set. I haven't picked up a good argument on BNA and other places to do other than get a good quality threaded assembly for the original forks, and then either stick a traditional quill stem in it or an adapter for a modern stem etcetera. What does your experience suggest? Can I please have your suggestions for model with or without cartridge bearings though I'd much prefer the latter?
- Not sure about handle bars. The modern shaped one make sense particularly with integrated brakes and shifters. Suggested alloy bars to integrate with stem above?
- Haven't looked at seat posts yet, looks a bit more complicated than it was a while back? Might do a brookes saddle.
- Wheels. Was keen on Mavics again, with ferrules in the rims because they have lasted for ever. My son's old mid level trek with bontragers are cracking at the nipple holes, corrosion there hasn't helped. Wiggle had Mavics for campag with ferruled nipple holes six months ago. But now mavic don't seem to make ferruled rims, and have to get campag wheels to get campag hubs unless i have them built? Would appreciate your experience and recommendations! Any body got some good used wheels?

Might have to buy me some new tools :-)

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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby humanbeing » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:59 am

You're off to a good start with that frame :D
I've built up 2 lugged steel frames with modern Campagnolo and new quill stems and bars,New Old Stock seat posts and hubs. Lots of fun :D
Check out my posts and others in the Retro threads and you'll find lots of examples of similar builds.
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby drubie » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:06 am

If you want ferruled wheels with a campag hub, you could take a look at the Fulcrum Racing 5 - they don't look super modern but they are lovely wheels for every day and they are cheap from wiggle or ribble.

Campagnolo still make beautiful 1" threaded head sets and they aren't outrageously expensive. They look identical to those available throughout the 1980s bar the graphics.

I'd personally stick with a quill stem - the 1" threadless headsets just don't look right and the threaded to threadless adapter stems are a visual disaster that is even worse. A lovely polished quill stem would suit the bike perfectly. Most of the stems you see are are that dull looking aluminium, so on my own retro build I'm going to re-use the ITM eclipse that came with the bike, regardless that it's a bit tatty looking on the paint.

I would expect that frame to have a 27.2 seatpost, so you are literally spoiled for choice on seat posts if that is the case. Cheap or expensive, painted or polished, used or new, it's an easy size to get.

Your bars will be somewhat dictated by the stem setup you choose, but there are plenty of polished alloy bars from the early 1990s when ergo shifting became common that have indents on the front and rear of the bars for the cabling.
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby Stepr » Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:16 pm

cant go past the polished quill stem and aero seat post.

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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby nigel1963 » Thu May 02, 2013 9:28 pm

http://www.flickr.com/photos/93274691@N ... hotostream

So far have bit-knocked-around Campag aero seat post, all silver Athena 11s groupset, steel Campag headset, couple of used stems. Got some new tools!
Likely modern-shape Nitto bars. Possibly mavic wheels, but would be keen on <=32 hole 'retro' set.
Saddle - duno, too many options and my backside has only experience of one for any extended period. Got to get moving.... :oops:
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby munga » Thu May 09, 2013 9:19 pm

if you want a truly modern bar shape, have a look at the soma highway one. 26.0mm clamp, 40, 42, 44 wide.
i'm keen for someone to buy a set of these so i can have a look ;p
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby Dan » Thu May 09, 2013 9:29 pm

Looking good! BTW, the concor is my saddle of choice. Like a cloud.
I have some other bars for you to see on saturday, too. Likely not what you're expecting.
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby Dan » Fri May 10, 2013 7:51 am

Also, have a talk to velo13 regarding wheel options - he built me a set with which I'm extremely happy.
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby nigel1963 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:21 pm

So......
Fork fitted. Seat, stem acquired. Bars on the way.
Changed the plan. Parked some of the 11 speed stuff, and am having a crack at 10 speed down tube index shifters. :roll:
Need to get a few more bits before SHMBO gets a better handle on my profligacy. This weekend while she is away. 8)
I think that the cable routing through the bottom bracket is a bit cruel and could be an impediment for the shifters. http://www.flickr.com/photos/93274691@N06/9215688826

Should I put a guide like this on it? http://www.totalcycling.com/a-z/shifter ... gnolo.html
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby Wazza » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:41 pm

No! To the external cable guide, Nigel. With your enginuity you should be able work something out through the BB.
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby Dan » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:21 am

Wazza wrote:No! To the external cable guide, Nigel. With your enginuity you should be able work something out through the BB.


I'm with waz. I have some sheath you can try if you like.
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby pentlandexile » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:59 am

This is looking good. I like that yellow Ricardo on your photostream as well.

Where do you buy new old-style handlebars to fit old stems?
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby Velo13 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:35 am

Wazza wrote:No! To the external cable guide, Nigel. With your enginuity you should be able work something out through the BB.


Agreed. Nigel, see if you can coax some of the inner teflon lining out of some excess gear cable, and poke that through the BB holes. Then run cables through there. They will require the occasional maintenance, but will run way smoother than just bare cable on metal.

Let me know if you have no luck, I am sure I would be able to source you some and pop it in the post.

I fully applaud the 10 speed down tube shifters - a great way to stuck with modern drivetrain components (reposnsive, reliable, durable), and keep the retro feel.

Pinarellos are simply wonderful to ride. I have owned a few, and in fact still have one in a box ....

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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby Dan » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:55 am

pentlandexile wrote:...Where do you buy new old-style handlebars to fit old stems?



Gear.
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby pentlandexile » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:15 am

Dan wrote:
pentlandexile wrote:...Where do you buy new old-style handlebars to fit old stems?



Gear.


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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby munga » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:14 pm

doesn't benny have an ebay on his internets?
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby pentlandexile » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:10 pm

munga wrote:doesn't benny have an ebay on his internets?


I prefer Gumtree these days ... water finds its own level.
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby nigel1963 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:53 pm

:) The rear brake route through the top tube is set up with a full length guide tube, and the sheath is stoppered each end.
Seems strange that the socket for the sheath is about 3.5mm, and so will only accept brake sheath with the outer plastic stripped off.
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Postby munga » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:40 pm

pitty43 wrote:Thanks all for your help. Better change my Gumtree add now.

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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby Dan » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:12 pm

Or ridgeway cycles. $1.10 from memory.
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby vaeske » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:42 pm

those fellas at ridgeway are great!
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby munga » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:46 pm

indeedily, those i posted are not good value by any stretch, but at least george knows what he's looking for.
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby Dan » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:47 pm

Someone should buy a bag.
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Re: Pinarello Treviso 1990s? rebuild

Postby munga » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:11 pm

i'll order pizza.
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Postby munga » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:11 pm

wait..
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