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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby singlespeedscott » Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:32 pm

frailer5 wrote:We're in... :) Must have been the Campy grease. oops, shoulda cleaned that grot in the bottom lug. Wasn't until I 'saw' it on screen. :oops:


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Well done.

Just as an aside. What dimension is the seatpost of your Ricardo?

I picked one up the other day of another forum member. It to is made from Tange 900.

All my other Ricardo's, built from tange 2 & 5 and Ishiwata tubing, have used a 26.6, 26.8 and 27.0mm posts. This one is really small and I have none that will fit. I think it's a 26.0 or 26.2. It would interesting to hear what yours is.
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby frailer5 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:10 pm

Averaged measurements on the ALDI calipers... 26.8, I'd say.
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby QuangVuong » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:44 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:
frailer5 wrote:Hmm.. OK. Why plastic? Seems odd.
Having trouble right now getting a 'thread' on the RHS left hand thread, to get the new sealed BB in. So close. :roll: . Surely it's the same thread... Certainly looks it. Have brushed/cleaned with toothbrush/INOX.
Back to the task...

The more expensive ones use an alloy wedge. However they do tend to creak. Another reason for the grease.


Where would the grease go though? Threads I did on my alloy one, but the contact point between the BB and wedge, I did not apply any grease.
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby frailer5 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:58 pm

Well, as I understood it, just to ease the threading process. As it was, with cleaning/brushing/wiping, (this one's been lying around gathering some spotty rust), I still did oscillating thread up, gaining a half or so turn each time. Whichever way, it seems to have worked.
I doubt it will be ready for Saturday though. :lol: Attempting rear cones/bearings this evening. Last hurdle. Ya never know.
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby QuangVuong » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:08 pm

Its already evening :wink: . You should be fine though, as long as there arent any issues with the rear hub stuff. Youll have more than enough time, as I managed to build all the Giant within a day.
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby singlespeedscott » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:38 pm

QuangVuong wrote:
singlespeedscott wrote:
frailer5 wrote:Hmm.. OK. Why plastic? Seems odd.
Having trouble right now getting a 'thread' on the RHS left hand thread, to get the new sealed BB in. So close. :roll: . Surely it's the same thread... Certainly looks it. Have brushed/cleaned with toothbrush/INOX.
Back to the task...

The more expensive ones use an alloy wedge. However they do tend to creak. Another reason for the grease.


Where would the grease go though? Threads I did on my alloy one, but the contact point between the BB and wedge, I did not apply any grease.

On the threads and inside the wedge.
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby QuangVuong » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:47 pm

Why the need for insde the wedge? Is it just to keep everything silent and less wear?
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby munga » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:49 pm

just a wild stab in the dark, but i'd guess it's to help stop any creaking.
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby frailer5 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:06 pm

QuangVuong wrote:Its already evening :wink: . You should be fine though, as long as there arent any issues with the rear hub stuff. Youll have more than enough time, as I managed to build all the Giant within a day.

Yeah, but you're younger than I am. :lol:


munga wrote:just a wild stab in the dark, but i'd guess it's to help stop any creaking.

Now only from my knees, TG. :relieved:
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby singlespeedscott » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:48 pm

munga wrote:just a wild stab in the dark, but i'd guess it's to help stop any creaking.

Bingo
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby frailer5 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 10:50 pm

Home straight, (I think). Rear's done, but in the search for axles/bearings, things got a little disorganised. Looks like I need to get some spacer(s) for the LHS. But I note there's a Corrimal Cycles, while wife is jabbing people. :twisted:
There's hope for Saturday yet.
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:35 am

frailer5 wrote:Home straight, (I think). Rear's done, but in the search for axles/bearings, things got a little disorganised. Looks like I need to get some spacer(s) for the LHS. But I note there's a Corrimal Cycles, while wife is jabbing people. :twisted:
There's hope for Saturday yet.

You didn't forget to put some bearings in? If your short one or two you will find the cones will screw in a little further leaving you with a little more axle length.
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby frailer5 » Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:19 pm

Thanks for everyone's help on this. Am sure Andy and Joe will post pics over in NSW>Sydney Retro Rides. High risk, but I wrapped it late last night and rode it. Just as well Sunho had the multi-tool to make some, ahem, adjustments.
Speaking of adjustments, have some slight play in the FW bearings, which am attending to now. But the Ricardo rides pretty sweetly. Great commuter, which is its destiny.
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby QuangVuong » Thu May 09, 2013 8:47 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:
munga wrote:just a wild stab in the dark, but i'd guess it's to help stop any creaking.

Bingo


Creaking has started a bit esp on hard pedalling. Will go grease up the inside of the wedge. If that doesnt stop the creaking, then its the frame which may be breaking :( .
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Re: Cones and bearings_80s wheels

Postby munga » Thu May 09, 2013 9:04 pm

check over every nut, bolt and screw, quang. could be as simple as a loose chainring bolt.
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