An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

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An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby akq » Mon May 06, 2013 4:44 pm

Trying to identify the maker of this bike,it has a Sturmey Archer gear changer,think it would have been 3 gears,looks like a twist shift arrangement,the main tube says Local as the manufacturer and on the front stem it says "South" and the other word is missing,serial number under crank is 046(or 48) and it has an Oxford light

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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby LugNut » Mon May 06, 2013 7:50 pm

akq wrote:Trying to identify the maker of this bike,it has a Sturmey Archer gear changer,think it would have been 3 gears,looks like a twist shift arrangement,the main tube says Local as the manufacturer and on the front stem it says "South" and the other word is missing,serial number under crank is 046(or 48) and it has an Oxford light


An oldie but an...oldie. I'd let the poor girl rest in peace as a garden ornament. :)
I can't offer much help on the identifying front, other than that it looks like a 3 speed club racer. The date of the Sturmey Archer hub, if it is legible, might give you some indication, but that could have been fitted at a later date.
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby akq » Mon May 06, 2013 8:37 pm

Thanks for your help,got enough garden ornaments.I am into old Italian scooters(Lambretta and Vespa) and have seen worse(but not by much) examples restored to unbelieveable condition.Just wanted to find out if its anything that may be of interest>will have a look t the hub tomorrow
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby Dan » Tue May 07, 2013 11:06 am

I think the question you really want to ask is "how much is it worth?" I'll say 50-150.
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby akq » Tue May 07, 2013 1:26 pm

Yes I suppose it is Dan!Any idea on the make,or country of origin
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An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby Dan » Tue May 07, 2013 1:32 pm

My guess is South Australia, late 50s

Edit: fat finger typo
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby rustychisel » Tue May 07, 2013 2:24 pm

think you could do better...

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just saying.

Those roadsters were as common as muck in the 1950s and 1960s, my first two or three bikes were variations on the theme, from 20in wheels to 26in then 28in. Coaster brakes, then 3 speed Sturmey Archer gears. The frames were pretty ubiquitous, might have been Super Elliot, Malvern Star or a half a million other bike shops who put 'their' brand name on them. They're okay, and an important historical artifact, but something special... unlikely.
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Wed May 08, 2013 10:26 pm

rustychisel wrote:Those roadsters were as common as muck in the 1950s and 1960s, my first two or three bikes were variations on the theme, from 20in wheels to 26in then 28in. Coaster brakes, then 3 speed Sturmey Archer gears. The frames were pretty ubiquitous, might have been Super Elliot, Malvern Star or a half a million other bike shops who put 'their' brand name on them. They're okay, and an important historical artifact, but something special... unlikely.

Rusty, the OP didn't use your description in the sales blurb
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby rustychisel » Wed May 08, 2013 11:41 pm

Hmm, another flippin ebay flipper...
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby Dan » Thu May 09, 2013 5:19 am

rustychisel wrote:Hmm, another flippin ebay flipper...


Yep.
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby akq » Thu May 09, 2013 3:36 pm

That is correct,but I personally dont see any problem with that.Surely it is better that you blokes buy these things rather than end up as landfill and at the prices I sell things?I am sure that some of you would be pretty fed up if you found out that some bloke had a top of the range whatever retro bike but didnt do any research on it and binned it
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby munga » Thu May 09, 2013 3:46 pm

well i sure don't want to end up as landfill!
i'm getting a funeral plan, pronto!

seriously tho, you can do what you like with your kerbside fossicking. i for one give no flying bicycles for your profiteering. where's our cut?
pitty43 wrote:Thanks all for your help. Better change my Gumtree add now.

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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby munga » Thu May 09, 2013 3:48 pm

research, or asking us to do your research?
pitty43 wrote:Thanks all for your help. Better change my Gumtree add now.

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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby akq » Thu May 09, 2013 3:51 pm

You can have 100% of **** all and the satisfaction of saving the planet :)
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby akq » Thu May 09, 2013 3:53 pm

And just for the record,if I do sell a bike I generally look after the buyer.Last one i sold gave the bloke an old aluminium MTB frame and a couple of new schwable(?) tyres that someone had thrown out.I would rather give stuff away than it end up as landfill especially to someone that has an interest and use for the things I collect.If I get a few $$ as well thats great
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby Typhoon Ken » Thu May 09, 2013 5:16 pm

akq wrote:You can have 100% of **** all and the satisfaction of saving the planet


After that comment I wouldn't be asking for any more advice.
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby akq » Thu May 09, 2013 5:33 pm

Mate it was a joke a flippant off the cuff remark,not intended to offend or upset.Just added a nice smiley in case anyone didnt get that it was a joke
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby Kermit TF » Thu May 09, 2013 6:55 pm

I reckon the seat is from Big W circa 1984.. :mrgreen:
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby akq » Thu May 09, 2013 7:20 pm

Could be right but the rust is the genuine Qld version
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby Dan » Thu May 09, 2013 7:28 pm

akq wrote:You can have 100% of **** all and the satisfaction of saving the planet :)
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akq wrote:Mate it was a joke a flippant off the cuff remark,not intended to offend or upset.Just added a nice smiley in case anyone didnt get that it was a joke


Edited, or off the cuff: which one?


akq wrote:And just for the record,if I do sell a bike I generally look after the buyer...

What about the time you sold a clearly damaged bicycle without disclosing that it was in fact damaged, despite this having been pointed out to you by a (now past) member of this community? In fact, I seem to recall that complaining about that particular incident was in fact your motivation for joining the forum in the first place.

Safe to say I won't be adding you to my saved sellers list.
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby akq » Thu May 09, 2013 7:45 pm

Dan you were not there when I had the conversation with that particular member but have probably made up your mind from his side of the story,I disagree that it was damaged and thats why he slagged me off.I have no problem stating that I have joined to make sure I dont sell something for the wrong price and am free to use the forum a I see fit,no problem if you dont want to add me as a favourite,plenty of buyers out there
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby Dan » Thu May 09, 2013 8:32 pm

You're right, I wasn't there - I did, however, form my own conclusion from the images you posted in your ad, which was unsurprisingly the same as that expressed (slightly less eloquently) by Wal.
You're right, you're able to use an open internet forum in (mostly) any way you see fit. I'd suggest you may have burned the 'ask in the retro forum' bridge with your 100% post, though.
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby akq » Sat May 18, 2013 10:36 am

This bike didnt sell :shock: so am offering up for free to anyone dedicated enough(read crazy :) to save it.Ifyou could try and get back to me today as I will be doing a dump run in the next few days
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby akq » Sun May 26, 2013 8:35 pm

No collected and saved from the graveyard.Thanks
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Re: An Oldie but a Goodie!!!

Postby ldrcycles » Mon May 27, 2013 7:51 pm

Yep picked it up yesterday on my way back through from Warwick, I've already managed to strip her down to the bare frame :D .

After some very careful inspection I've worked out that the head tube logo reads "Built by The Local Cycle Co. South Brisbane".
My google searching so far has come up with the information that Guthrie Bicycles (best known as the parent company of Ashby) made bikes under the Local brand, but there is no other information about how, when or where Local started.

I'll keep searching, in the mean time the old girl is very tired and will need a lot of TLC. Most of the components are past the point of no return, but the frame and fork are ok. One of the BB cups has sheared off in the BB so in due course I will need to send it to a local engineer for some attention.
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