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yet more Id help

Postby Torana68 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:46 pm

Picked this up , have not much lot of idea who made it (its a bit new for me) Bocama lugs and chunky seat stays might help someone?

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Re: yet more Id help

Postby dayne » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:44 pm

Any serial numbers or bb cut outs?
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Re: yet more Id help

Postby Torana68 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:06 pm

no BB cut out, no numbers found yet, have to get the stem out and check the steerer.
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Re: yet more Id help - Superia?

Postby Torana68 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:54 pm

After looking everywhere this may be a Superia from Belgium, any Superia experts about? most seem to be Ishiwata tubing, any way to id this tubing?

http://progettopistavintage.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/superia-track.html
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Re: yet more Id help

Postby cotterpin » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:31 am

Do I see the remains of a riders name along the top bar?

The inside dimples on the chain stay can be a good indicator or their maker, i.e. Reynolds, Columbus and Vitus, all had very
distinctive shapes.
From memory in the early 80's the Ishiwata and Tange Stays that landed in the eastern states of Oz, had no dimples at
all, leaving it for the builder to punch in.
Fork blades can narrow it down as well. In the early 80's, Reynolds and Vitus were only available in 22.2mm dia.
Tange 23.0mm, Columbus and Ishiwata 24.0mm, or at least that's how I remember it.
I think Reynolds were the first 5/8" dia seat stays to hit Oz.
What ever the tubing is, it looks like a very good frame. I suspect the builder kept a very high standard and didn't take
short cuts e.g. if you look closely at the c/stay ends (drop outs) you might be able to see how the the end and the stay
are double slotted, sort of like a finger joint.

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Re: yet more Id help

Postby Torana68 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:03 am

cotterpin wrote:Do I see the remains of a riders name along the top bar?
Peter


yeah how did i forget to mention that, M. McCarthy, forks 22/13 ish seat stays 16 /11, seat stem 27.2 ,chainstay dimples dont look identical, the colour is close to the Superia blue, doesnt mean a lot though.
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