28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

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28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby reeva65 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:36 pm

Hi, wanted to ask you all, is it still possible to buy 28x 1 3/8 tyres in Fawn or white wall??
I've had a look around and all i can come up with are full black ones..

Anyone know where i could find some?

Does anyone even still make them anymore?
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby ldrcycles » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:21 pm

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but no. The 28 x 1-3/8" size has been out of use for a very long time now, and while tyres are still available the selection is about as limited as it gets.

If you really want white or gum wall tyres the options are either painting the black ones (which may or may not work) or switching to 28 x 1-1/2" which is still used on bikes made in India and China and so has a greater selection of tyres and rims available. Even those aren't exactly common though, so you could look at going to 27" which increases your choices by at least an order of magnitude.
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby reeva65 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:58 pm

Thanks for your reply.. Do you think there is even a market for these tyres?
I mean there are loads of old bike out there that would look great with original styles of tyre.
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby ldrcycles » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:21 pm

In terms of the sort of bikes that were fitted with 642mm rims (28x1-3/8", the other 28" size is 635mm) i'd say no, or to be more specific, the market is there but very small. There aren't all that many of those bikes left now, especially compared to 70s or 80s bikes, and there are nowhere near as many people interested in them. Part of that is the difficulty of sourcing period correct parts, and period correct parts are hard to find because not many people are interested in them and so on and so forth.

For more modern bikes with 27" or 700C wheels gumwall and whitewall tyres are readily available, and they definitely look a heck of a lot better, my 1981 Mercier has gumwalls.

Worth bearing in mind though that all black tyres are period correct too.
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby feelthewheel » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:11 pm

I remember seeing a set of original 28 x 1 3/8's in red, shown to me by a private collector (on a bicycle they wouldn't sell me - poo). They were completely unrideable but would have looked amazing when new.

Surely there's enough of a worldwide vintage cycling fraternity/vintage bicycle specialist demand to produce a limited run of fawn or red colour in this size? Any chemical engineers in this forum who know the mechanics of colouring moulded rubber?
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:25 pm

Clydesdale Scot may have some insight- viewtopic.php?f=23&t=59137&hilit=shockstop
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:51 am

I'd be working my way through the car forums; getting the best recommendations for the paint used for the tyre sidewalls
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/white-wall-tire-paint
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/show ... rylon+tire

and trying it out on old tyres.
In doing it, you need to take lots of photos, and then write it up and post on here so others can see how obsessive you are.
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby feelthewheel » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:14 pm

Did a bit of websearch and found this site:

http://www.junkyrustybikes.co/shop/26x1 ... rettyPhoto

Have sent off a message asking if they were considering making coloured 28 x 1 3/8's, will let everyone know if a response is forthcoming ... cross fingers!
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:28 pm

Looking at the Sheldon Brown tyre sizes page 28x 1 3/8 is not to be found.
considering the effort required to make a mould, and no potential way of recouping the upfront costs...
I think the answer will be 'no'
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby Torana68 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:20 pm

28 x 1 3/8 isn't there cause it was never sold in the US ("never" perhaps they did but it would have been long long ago and it was a French size) the tyres are made in Asia, contact either the maker or Australian importer. Bike shops are probably a waste of time for such a request.
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby feelthewheel » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:39 am

This seems to be the page needed. Everyone got their Dutch on? :D

http://halfords.nl/catalogus/fiets/fiet ... age/1.html
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby feelthewheel » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:00 am

And a bit more ...

http://en.hollandbikeshop.com/deli-tire/
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com.au/2010/ ... ctory.html
http://classic-cycle.de/en/Tires-Tubes-and-Supplies/

If only the Fat Frank (in brown) listed on the German website came in a 28 x 1 3/8!! Now that would make for a merry Christmas!
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby Torana68 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:14 pm

Schwalbe dont make a 28 x 1 3/8 (as fited to Oz bikes) you need to use the rim size 642 or French size 700A and ignore all the numbers and x's try my previous advice its correct and the only available option, there is no easy google fix
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:16 pm

Torana68 wrote:Clydesdale Scot are you a member of the HAMB? (just looking at one of your links there)


no, that would be certain divorce!
But I do appreciate their handcrafted approach.
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby Torana68 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:45 pm

Clydesdale Scot wrote:
Torana68 wrote:Clydesdale Scot are you a member of the HAMB? (just looking at one of your links there)

no, that would be certain divorce!
But I do appreciate their handcrafted approach.


ah well, there are a few about here and there, its not the place for a "restorer" though :lol:
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby scratchman » Thu Dec 19, 2013 12:03 pm

Torana68 wrote:
Clydesdale Scot wrote:
Torana68 wrote:Clydesdale Scot are you a member of the HAMB? (just looking at one of your links there)

no, that would be certain divorce!
But I do appreciate their handcrafted approach.


ah well, there are a few about here and there, its not the place for a "restorer" though :lol:

ad me to that list, also ozrodders ( like you ), there are quite a few guys into old cars and pushbikes
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby Torana68 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:57 pm

ad me to that list, also ozrodders ( like you ), there are quite a few guys into old cars and pushbikes[/quote]

Shhhhhh! lets keep that our little secret :lol:
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby petra87 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:52 pm

could grab a pair of black tyres off ebay and give this a go http://www.badpennycustoms.com.au/zen/i ... cts_id=248
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Re: 28x 1 3/8 white wall tyres???

Postby ldrcycles » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:54 pm

petra87 wrote:could grab a pair of black tyres off ebay and give this a go http://www.badpennycustoms.com.au/zen/i ... cts_id=248


Only thing is they recommend the tyres be used for 6-12 months before painting as they leech chemicals when new, who gets tyres to last that long? :)
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