identifying old track frame

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identifying old track frame

Postby landyacht03 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:48 pm

the cycle gods have shined on me again this week, today i rescued an old track frame( assuming track as no holes for brakes,rather a light construction)
the headstem is rather distinctive.. aside from the integrated bearing housings, the ornate front features a letter that is a ornate letter E OR a Gaelic looking letter M on its side.
my LBS suggested a mercator?
hints of the blue paint with white pinstripes and diamond patterns down the fork.
im sure Ive seen a pic of a very ,very similar frame somewhere on BNS but I thought Id ask the experts first
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby Torana68 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:54 pm

no photos = no idea, sounds like Super Elliot but could be anything at this stage
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:55 pm

is it like this?
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby landyacht03 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:14 pm

nope not a match.
sorry i cant put photos up, this forum is very frustrating to me in that regard.
im busy trawling through the other tthreads trying to find a match
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby landyacht03 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:44 pm

I think you might be right with the super elliot thing. I found an image that had a load of frames together, and when i can enlarge it im sure i'll find a copy. Thanks fellas
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:53 pm

landyacht03 wrote:nope not a match.
sorry i cant put photos up, this forum is very frustrating to me in that regard.
im busy trawling through the other tthreads trying to find a match

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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby landyacht03 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:01 pm

First up, head over to photobucket or another image hosting site and set up an account, once you've done that you can upload your pics.


this is where our problems begin. all to do with upgrading our sevice etc. weve had problems even since.
i pretty sure its a super elliott after managing to get onto a site that had a history ofthe brand.
rather pleased with the find.
. i did email some pics out to clydesdale scot who PM'd me but I dont think they got to him
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:12 pm

landyacht03 wrote: i did email some pics out to clydesdale scot who PM'd me but I dont think they got to him

no sign of them, can you try again?
or PM me your email address
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby landyacht » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:02 pm

i'll try again tommorrow, when i can get my hands on wifeys mac. she aint gonna be happy when she come s home to find a bike frame in the bedroom :mrgreen:
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:47 am

and here are landyacht03's photos for a frame identification
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Mario had this selection of Super Elliotts here
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and there are more variations at his AussieVelos site
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby landyacht03 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:24 pm

mines rather an ornaate example :D ,but does that make it older or younger? :D
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby rustychisel » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:06 am

older than what? younger than what?

it's old. the horizontal rear ends, the curved bridge, the headset fittings, the stem array etc all suggest prewar. I'd suggest 1930s, perhaps late 1920s
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:42 am

PM has been sent to Mario for help here
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby silverlight » Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:48 pm

Hi All
landyacht03 is there a serial number?
Is there anything on the down-tube, it looks like some markings are on there? any of it readable? makers, name of anything etc.
I have been collecting Super Elliott serials for a while to see if there is a pattern among all these frames and bikes and could see if it fits in soemwhere.
The serial is mainly located around the seat collar or under the Bottom Bracket,
I would say it is a 1930's era, however i havent seen an E in that style but thats not to say it isnt a Super Elliott,
Love to see more images

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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby rest_assured » Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:09 pm

Nice petina!
Are the seatpost and stem stuck?
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Re: identifying old track frame

Postby landyacht » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:47 pm

the seat post and stem wont be coming out anytime soon,sorry.
the frame was buried in a pile of temite eaten OOOOLD firewood in a collapsed shed. after my luck with finding a swansea 5 swan ive asked all my bobcat mates to keep their eyes peeled . i went back to the frame tonight and there on the bottom bracket on the curved front is a serial number. the first symbol is partial due to the curve but I reckon it would have to be a capital E?followed by distinct 34672.
I dont know anything about the history as its an empty house thats falling down , dont even know who might have lived there(boulder ,WA)
original colour would have been a royal blue with white finelining ad white patterning on the fork
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