Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

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Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:51 pm

I was repeated told by my wife that the Malvern Star was too nice to ride, it might get scratched.

The answer was to get yet another bike and keep it in 'survivor' condition (or accept that Liz doesn't want to ride a bike)

Well, that has happened (getting another bike), a survivor bike was thrust at me. The seller was very keen for me to take it for a 'hard to refuse' price.

He bought it from the original owner who brought it from Italy when he migrated to Adelaide.
It hung in his garage for decades before Kim bought it, with the plan for his wife to ride it.
That didn't happen. Kim did replace the tyres and tubes and a cable outer because they had perished from age.

So I am the third owner. If I don't make it too shiny then there is a chance it will get ridden.

And it gives me the opportunity to learn more about another bike manufacturer.


Roger in 2010 was after some information about a Legnano Roadster
and Mario had a period catalogue.

There is a mens version in a Flickr folder that is in mint condition, and probably from the same period.
but that wouldn't get ridden. Too shiny.

There was another highlighted in this forum
and in this Flickr album

From checking to date, it would appear that the general style was retained for a long time, so it is back to identifying some parts to get a better guide on the date.
There is this listing of serial numbers. It seems that the Italians used a coding system that Bletchley Park is needed to decode. I think it is from around 1960, based on the decal, the rim stamping, the open C on the gear lever.
Some photos of the bike in its current state.
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more photos in the Flickr album

If anyone has any further information, comments and suggestions jump on board.

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby old steel Bikes » Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:21 pm

Can we get a full break down of all the parts i.e. cranks pedals hubs and anything else that can be named and even better photos showing the components name
This info will be invaluable to help identifying old parts where to look for ID and font from the ages

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:58 pm

old steel Bikes wrote:Can we get a full break down of all the parts i.e. cranks pedals hubs and anything else that can be named and even better photos showing the components name
This info will be invaluable to help identifying old parts where to look for ID and font from the ages

Danny


the photos show what I could before the cloud cover burnt off and the temp soared. Currently 41C, so I am sheltering inside.

This bike will only need new cables, tyres and tubes and brake blocks. So needing the date to start acquiring components is not an issue here.
A spa bath in oxalic acid, then a polish with Autosol for the chrome, and Becketts wax polish for the painted bits.
I will recover the saddle and may get some pedal inserts cast.
The wheels will get new spokes.

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:19 pm

last weekend I stripped the bike. The January application of Penetrene on all the threaded fittings resulted in an easy dismantle.
today I did something positive
ImageIMG_6161 by philip.knight, on Flickr

they had a spa today
soak in kero
a gentle warm bath in the ultrasonic cleaner, then a few 5 min cycles for cleaning.
the brakes were then dismantled and given a polish on the bench polisher, then reassembled
back in for another clean in the ultrasonic cleaner
a spray with Penetrene
ImageIMG_6168 by philip.knight, on Flickr
The brakes are Universal Sport model and the rear derailleur is a Campagnolo Sport. Both are at the low end.
The forks cleaned up well. The chainset has been cleaned of the crud (kero then ultrasonic cleaner) ready for its oxalic acid bath.

I need to remember not to overdo this one.
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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby utedeej » Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:57 pm

Nice work. I am interested in your ultrasonic cleaner as I was thinking of getting one of the cheaper ones off the web. Any tips? What size is the cleaner you have?

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Torana68 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:18 pm

utedeej wrote:Nice work. I am interested in your ultrasonic cleaner as I was thinking of getting one of the cheaper ones off the web. Any tips? What size is the cleaner you have?


we had a large industrial one at work and did wonders for rusty bits so Im interested too , I also have a Legnano but the Gents version
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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:49 pm

The ultrasonic cleaner is a quality one, designed for the cleaning of handguns.
It is an Sonic Systems HG575 with a power supply to adapt to the different voltage. I bought it slightly used, from a gun owner who didn't have much of a sense of humour :shock:
and he wasn't overly keen on bike riders :(
The upside was it was very very reasonably priced :D
I had previously used a friends ultrasonic cleaner, and this one matched it for specs: reasonable power and an inbuilt heater.

Torana68 wrote:I also have a Legnano but the Gents version

What year and model is your Gents version?

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Torana68 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:28 pm

its roughly '55 ish , should have Simplex tour de France derailleur but have been a bit lazy with it, model I forget.
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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby utedeej » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:24 am

Thanks for the info Philip - I won't be going for a ride out to the gun club just yet, but will keep an eye out though

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby morini » Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:26 pm

Clydesdale Scot wrote: a gun owner who didn't have much of a sense of humour :shock:
and he wasn't overly keen on bike riders :(


Sounds like my wife's ex-grazier parents. One mention of greenies and their fingers start twitching. :?

I'd love to own a Legnano town cruiser with condorino bars. One of the great classic Italian bicycles.

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:36 pm

the cleaning has now been completed.
A little electrolysis.

Recently bought: cables (inner and outer), 9mm cotter pins, new bearings, spokes and nipples, brake shoes with leather strip (because of the [blemished] chrome rims)
All going well.
Soon to order the tyres (whitewall) and skirt net.

I have a request: where would I find some of these brake cable ends?
Imagecable ends by philip.knight, on Flickr
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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby old steel Bikes » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:02 pm

Philip

Not shore if you want original or something that will do the same task. GB produced items fairly close to this if you are interested.

There are some on eBay now

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:09 pm

ma sono inglesi . Non adatto per una bicicletta italiana

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:31 pm

ImageWIP20150816 (2) by philip.knight, on Flickr

Wheels respoked by a friend. New whitewall tyres and tubes will be ordered this week.
New saddle top made over the weekend. No surprises that it is leather. I still have to drill the holes for the bifurcated rivets to hold the retaining tabs to go over the mattress top.
Chain to be bought and then fitted. Then dial in the Campagnolo Sport derailleur.

Postage out of Germany or Italy for a single skirt net is way too expensive. So I may well make one from scratch. All the components appear to be available.
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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby LG » Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:50 pm

So what is your wife going to ride because the Legnano is too good? Nice looking rebuild.
LG = Low Gear

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby old steel Bikes » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:09 pm

So what is the next bike on the agenda
A nice 50s single speed??

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby marbo » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:46 pm

I notice the front lamp is made by Aprilia. Is that the Aprilia who make the motorcycles?

Fantastic restoration btw

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:08 pm

marbo wrote:I notice the front lamp is made by Aprilia. Is that the Aprilia who make the motorcycles?


If the contributors to Wiki are to be believed, bicycles came first:
Aprilia was founded after the Second World War by Cavaliere Alberto Beggio, as a bicycle production factory at Noale, Italy in the province of Venice.

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:32 pm

old steel Bikes wrote:So what is the next bike on the agenda
A nice 50s single speed??


the Hobbs is a 1940s single speed. I don't think I could justify another.
the next project has these
Imagesteel_zpstcl6dzmi by philip.knight, on Flickr

points for neatest correct guess as for the project.
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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Mulger bill » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:59 pm

Something like this...
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Only better design and build?
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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby old steel Bikes » Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:33 pm

I was thinking something more like these fittered with a front brake and fixed wheel of course. For a quick ride to the coffee shop on sunny mornings to blow the cob webs out.

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For the steel I would say a bike display case or a box trailer to carry the bikes around

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Imwit » Sat Aug 22, 2015 1:09 pm

Something like this?

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby marbo » Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:41 pm

Clydesdale Scot wrote:
marbo wrote:I notice the front lamp is made by Aprilia. Is that the Aprilia who make the motorcycles?


If the contributors to Wiki are to be believed, bicycles came first:
Aprilia was founded after the Second World War by Cavaliere Alberto Beggio, as a bicycle production factory at Noale, Italy in the province of Venice.



The wright brothers go from bicycles to aeroplanes and the Italians just stick an engine on their bikes, no ambition :wink:

is tyour next project a bike rack?

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sat Aug 22, 2015 5:58 pm

marbo wrote:is your next project a bike rack?


yes, we have a winner. Something very mundane, but it is to hang some bikes in a more organised manner. It may be multi-functional, as I am planning for it to be able to be used intermittently for holding a white backdrop to take some bike photos.

And I did buy another bike frame today. But it hopefully with be played forward in the next week. I will update the appropriate thread.

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Re: Legnano - for when a Malvern Star is too good

Postby Clydesdale Scot » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:29 pm

In my opinion it looks better with the whitewalls. I was able to get some 26x1 3/8" presta valve tubes ordered in by my LBS. The schrader valves were too big to go through the rim valve hole.
still to put the chain on, adjust the rear mudguard and make the custom two tone blue skirt net and fittings.

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