Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby find_bruce » Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:37 am
Why would you want to spend time & money on a dunger? Plenty of nice steel frames but it depends on your size & budget
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:48 pm
Exactly what Scott has said, although I would add that if you can find a mid-high end 7sp era steel frame, your life will be much easier for the first time around. Late 80s Peugeot with the HLE Mangalloy frame are quite nice to work with as are upper end Ricardo, Apollo, Fuji, Nishiki, Shogun, Repco and Malvern Star.singlespeedscott wrote:The frame is the heart, but don’t get hung up on names. Japanese made frames may not have the name but they are well made.
I would be looking for something made from quality butted steel. Reynolds 531 or better, Tange 2 or better, Columbus SL or better or Ishiwata.
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby familyguy » Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:56 am
Reynolds 501SL - $65 as a complete bike, sold the parts for double that
Tange Champion No. 2 - cost me a six pack
Koga Miyata FM-2 - $150 shipped
Reynolds 531 - $140
Ishiwata EXO-H - $75, sold parts for more than that
You don't need to spend big money on a frame unless it's the right frame. I do also have a Gazelle frame I bought NOS, which cost me more than all those combined, but that was one of my grail frames and is almost perfect for me. The good thing is if you buy one and its not quite right, then find something else, swap the parts, and try again!
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby bustidandruptured » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:23 pm
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby NASHIE » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:35 pm
Not sure of price range, but vitus/alan frames come up at good prices. As long as you check them out for any damage they are a great frame. Im currently riding my vitus 979 with 2016 campy chorus and just love it. Weighs in around 8kgbustidandruptured wrote:Thanks for all the replies.I'm thinking from one extreame to the other at the moment.I am keen on finding possibly a nice Repco superlite or a yummy Alan.I did say one extreme to the other.
One here
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/heidelb ... 1192558624
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby nickobec » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:22 pm
If you intend to ride it, I would avoid the Superlite and go for the next model up in Repco an Olympic or a step further the Tri-A.bustidandruptured wrote:I am keen on finding possibly a nice Repco superlite
The Superlite has 4130 Chromoly main tubes, but good old 1020 forks and seat stays.
The Olympic has Chromoly throughout depending on the year badge 535 or 4130 made by Giant in Taiwan (as was the Superlite) exception the 84 Olympic made by Nishiki in Japan from decent quality Tange tubing.
The Tri-A (well the pre 90s one) are Japanese made, Tange Infinity.
I currently have one of each, the Superlite is my take to the train station and chain it up bike, it is not really a fun bike to ride. The Olympic is currently a single speed, but is much more fun to ride and just feels better on the road. The Tri-A is very original and I just have not spent enough time on it.
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby Derny Driver » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:29 pm
PS I am not a Repco fan. Overpriced rubbish in my opinion.
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby bustidandruptured » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:47 pm
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby singlespeedscott » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:07 pm
If you want a classic look take your ideal saddle height and multiply it by 0.76 if you want an 80’s Lemond type fit, or 0.78 if you are after a Merckx fit. These are seat tube lengths centre to top. Don’t worry about top tube length just adjust it with your stem.
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby nickobec » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:15 pm
Unless you value your bike's handling over looks, get the stem length right, then the right top tube + stem, before worrying about how much seat post you show.singlespeedscott wrote:Don’t worry about top tube length just adjust it with your stem.
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:27 am
The odds of finding a vintage frame with a top tube of less than 55cm or next to nix. A stem length of 2cm or so difference is not going to have any effect. This bike will not be raced in a pace line at 40km he of hours on end. Neither will it be used in a crit. You will adapt in very short order.nickobec wrote:Unless you value your bike's handling over looks, get the stem length right, then the right top tube + stem, before worrying about how much seat post you show.singlespeedscott wrote:Don’t worry about top tube length just adjust it with your stem.
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby nickobec » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:22 am
Your bike may not be, but I like my bikes to be capable of whatever I throw at them. Couple days a week after commuting to the city I do a short bunch ride, never know who is going to turn up, could be 35kph doing long turns on the front, 40kph pace line with sprints roughly every 10 minutes or hanging on the back at 45kph. Don't want ride up and go sorry can't ride with you today, brought the wrong bike. And yes I do race my classic frames sometimes by choice and other times not, ie start riding to race and snap FD cable, only race capable bike I have available was classic frame modern group set (I will not race classic bike with classic groupset and DT shifters)singlespeedscott wrote:This bike will not be raced in a pace line at 40km he of hours on end. Neither will it be used in a crit. You will adapt in very short order.
At 184cm tall, my preferred option is 54TT and 120mm stem, with my weight over the front wheel, I can cope with 55 & 110, I am not as confident throwing a 56 & 100 into corners and by comparison my 57 & 90 handles like a truck, which is a shame because that frame does everything else really well.
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby singlespeedscott » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:25 am
To be honest I’ll take a longer top tube with a shorter stem over a short top tube long stem every time. For me, longer top tube bikes are infinitely more comfortable due to flex in the larger main frame and they handle rough, high speed descents a lot better.
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby hitchhiker » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:29 pm
Is that original paint or a respray?
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby jaseyjase » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:13 pm
cheers mate!hitchhiker wrote:Lovely Klein!
Is that original paint or a respray?
original paint was in very poor condition, hence the respray
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby 10speedsemiracer » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:31 pm
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
Postby jaseyjase » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:56 pm
cheers mate, cant go wrong with black!10speedsemiracer wrote:Very nice Jase, I do like a Klein, yours looks nice'n'stealthy
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Re: Vintage Bikes With Modern Groupsets
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