Having trouble identifying this frame. Help!

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Having trouble identifying this frame. Help!

Postby noid108 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:56 pm

Hi everyone, hoping you may be able to help me out I picked this bike up recently but am having trouble identifying it, it has Gazelle decals but I know a lot of the gazelles around this era had pantographing and this has none. It is light so I know it"s decent tubing, came with a Shimano 600 6207 groupset, sr flutes post, modolo bars, and araya rims. The only marks on the frame are Gipiemme stamps on the fork and rear dropouts and 55E stamped on the bottom bracket and fork steerer. Here are some photos I have uploaded to flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/140815440 ... 2884458531 I really want to do this one up so it would be great if I was able to get the manufacturer so I can do it right.
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Dion

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Re: Having trouble identifying this frame. Help!

Postby P!N20 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:49 am

I can only see pictures of your fork.

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Re: Having trouble identifying this frame. Help!

Postby find_bruce » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:58 am

Yep, its a nice fork, but unlikely to help identify frame
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Fork1 by Dion Hinton, on Flickr
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Fork2 by Dion Hinton, on Flickr

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Re: Having trouble identifying this frame. Help!

Postby noid108 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:46 am

Hi, sorry about that it was my first time using Flikr and I royally stuffed it up I had most of the photos set as private, think I've fixed it now adding the link again in case I got that arse about too, https://www.flickr.com/photos/140815440 ... 2884458531 thanks for your replies.

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Re: Having trouble identifying this frame. Help!

Postby WyvernRH » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:43 am

Well, it's a good quality frame with investment cast rear bridges, nice lugs and cleanly built. From the 80's maybe?
Could well be a Gazelle, I've seen them with that style of rear brake bridge but... The decals look a bit off and no headbadge or chainstay panto's. :?
To me it looks like a Technocrat frame from Italy with Gazelle decals which is not knocking it at all, Technocrat made/make nice frames. Remember also that Gazelle is a BIG manufacturer, like Raleigh say, so it was not unknown for them to 'buy in' batches of frames to fill a production gap (I know they bought-in from Raleigh UK back in the day) So this might be a Gazelle labelled Technocrat from a batch bought-in from Italy? It would have had the stick-on badge which often parted company with the frame.
Or.. could be a Gazelle of a model I never saw - they made a lot of bikes of various models.
Or.. could be a ringer with Gazelle transfers
Whatever, a very nice frame - if you get bored with it let me know :P

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Re: Having trouble identifying this frame. Help!

Postby Lots of steel bikes » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:02 pm

WyvernRH wrote:To me it looks like a Technocrat frame from Italy with Gazelle decals which is not knocking it at all, Technocrat made/make nice frames.
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Spelt Tecnotrat.
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Re: Having trouble identifying this frame. Help!

Postby noid108 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:37 am

Thanks for the info, after doing some research on the Tecnotrat frames you're spot on I think. The only pic I have been able to find with that brake bridge was a Saronni so I think I might go that way, any ideas on tubing? I know they used Falck, Oria and Columbus I'm just not sure what the Saronni's usually were.

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Re: Having trouble identifying this frame. Help!

Postby P!N20 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:52 am

^ Columbus Aelle typically - I'm sure there were exceptions.

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Re: Having trouble identifying this frame. Help!

Postby noid108 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:14 pm

Thanks for all the help everyone. Now to get on with the build :D

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