WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

[munga]

+1 vote b&

[RobM]

who moderates the mods?

Coastguard?

(thank-you Simpsons )

[Lark2004]

who moderates the mods?

Site Admin, the one who pays to keep this site running.
And if He's happy with the job the Mods are doing, then that simply means you need to like it or lump it.

[Kalgrm]

who moderates the mods?

Site Admin, the one who pays to keep this site running.
And if He's happy with the job the Mods are doing, then that simply means you need to like it or lump it.

Generally speaking, we moderate ourselves and each other. The other moderators were chosen because they are articulate, fair-minded and level headed* (most of the time). The moderators also talk amongst themselves, discussing members who aren't behaving in the best interests of the forum community. We do act as a team most of the time, even though you'll usually see only one of us take action in any given thread.

If someone feels like they are being unfairly persecuted by a moderator (or all of them), that person should contact the site administrator/owner (Christopher, AKA AuBicycles). However, I can't remember a time when anyone has had a moderator's ruling overturned by Christopher: his thoughts are well aligned with his moderator team, which is why he chose us to be part of the team.

Cheers,
Graeme

(* Still trying to work out why I was asked. Comic relief for the others? )

[Lark2004]

(* Still trying to work out why I was asked. Comic relief for the others? )

It's the beard.....

[Kalgrm]

(* Still trying to work out why I was asked. Comic relief for the others? )

It's the beard.....

... as long as it's not the 'bent!

[Mulger bill]

Generally speaking, we moderate ourselves and each other. The other moderators were chosen because they are articulate, fair-minded and level headed* (most of the time). The moderators also talk amongst themselves, discussing members who aren't behaving in the best interests of the forum community. We do act as a team most of the time, even though you'll usually see only one of us take action in any given thread.

If someone feels like they are being unfairly persecuted by a moderator (or all of them), that person should contact the site administrator/owner (Christopher, AKA AuBicycles). However, I can't remember a time when anyone has had a moderator's ruling overturned by Christopher: his thoughts are well aligned with his moderator team, which is why he chose us to be part of the team.

Cheers,
Graeme

I really want to moderate this particular post as IMO the references to "articulate, fair-minded and level headed" are immoderate in the extreme and clearly breach the moderators code of conduct, but decided that such moderation on my part would be itself immoderate and therefore decided to excercise self moderation, a tough task at the best of times.

I would like to take this further opportunity to thank the unseen, unpaid, uncredited and unaware volunteer "moderators" who have acted so well in the interests of the BNA community by assisting the OP in attaining some semblance of factual reality in this post.

Shaun

(* Still trying to work out why I was asked. Comic relief for the others? )

Plus several.

[Redbull]

I think we should short of quote Groucho Marx "I wouldn't be a moderator of any forum that would have ME as a moderator"

As for the descriptions of the OP - it's straight bull and shouldn't be allowed.

You don't have to be a business to contravene the Trade Practices Act regarding misleading or deceptive practices. And no saying "Just joking" does not resolve the issue.

[brentono]

Hi,
I don't feel I've been persecuted by anyone here, I can stand up for myself,
and will here, and have.
Don't get personal (smart) with me, because I can't be bothered getting personal
with those who do.
I would welcome anyone who has done business here at the site, since I have
been here, to air any complaints they may have against me, not being fair and square.
If I have been un-trustworthy or deceptive in my dealing with them, air it here, on this post,
or let the mods know, I welcome it.
As for my postings, there would be many more, if like some here, I was prone
to making stupid, smart, personal comments on any subject here, just to make space,
but I haven't and won't be.
I'm here to trade fair and square, and I'll leave it at that.
Thanks
BrentonO

[Kalgrm]

I'm here to trade fair and square, and I'll leave it at that.
Thanks
BrentonO

Which is exactly why the mods are watching. This forum is not a trading place, but a community of people who cycle. This particular section of the forum is for established community members to trade amongst themselves. It's not a place where outsiders are welcomed if their only reason for being here is to sell stuff to community members.

Graeme

[brentono]

Graeme,
You speak of outsider, yet we are all members, you still have to get personal.
FYI, I ride every day, have represented the country competatively, and
internationally and have experience which I was willing to share.
Whatever your personal thoughts are, they are not welcome.
I have probably forgotten more than you would probably ever know about cycling,
and while you were shaking your rattle, in your crib, as you are doing now,
I was out there doing it, be that as it may, your word is "god" (as you say)
and so you will have the final say.
I will just enjoy my cycling, stay happy, and "trade"" with any other members here
who don't see me as the outsider, and want a fair deal.
Nuff said.
Cheers,
BrentonO

[Mulger bill]

For a bloke who can't be bothered getting personal...

[m@]

BrentonO, for the record this thread was brought to the mod group's attention about a week a before your post was edited; we didn't intervene earlier as we had hoped you would change the inaccurate description of your own accord. On many boards that indiscretion/joke/whatever would have been enough to earn you an immediate ban. I'm not really sure what you hope to achieve by arguing the toss.

You speak of a wealth of experience that you would have been willing to share - your posting history doesn't bear this willingness out. This ain't ebay. If you're not interested in contributing to the forum in any way other than trading - the door is at the top right and looks like a red X. Nothing personal whatsoever - anyone who is willing to follow the rules and make a positive contribution to the forum at large is more than welcome here.

[brentono]

To All,
As this all started from my description of "vintage" and subsquently,
on research of another members (jfisher) site Velobase, and the discussion
about the subject,
http://www.velobase.com/Forum/ThreadVie ... fe2ac736c1
Where it seems to be established that parts prior to 94/95 are vintage.
I would like to hear from the mods, as they are grouping, what is the ruling on this
site, for the term- Vintage.
Since we all want to be precise about the rules.
M@ as stated, I have experience that I was willing to share, and still are, for those who
might take a moment to listen, as some here already have.
Thankyou for any info you can give, to clear this up.
Cheers,
BrentonO

[ratsack]

Graeme,...
Whatever your personal thoughts are, they are not welcome.
I have probably forgotten more than you would probably ever know about cycling

This sounds a little familiar...

Toff has probably forgotten more about this sort of stuff than most of us ever knew.

[Kalgrm]

Around here, a person is not measured by their encyclopaedic knowledge of cycling nor by their past exploits on the track. A community member is measured by their willingness to impart their knowledge and lessons they've gleaned from their experiences, and/or by their willingness to amuse other members. Keeping your knowledge to yourself doesn't add anything to this forum.

You were an expert track rider: do you know there is a track section in the forum? Of course you do - you've posted there (once). You've also posted a picture of your bike, asked where you can buy old-style pedals in Perth and let us know you carry a few bits to fix up flats. Aside from a few "hellos" to fellow Perth riders when you were building up your post count to start selling, just about every other post of yours* is about something you have for sale. Exactly when are you going to start sharing this wealth of knowledge you have? What will eventually trigger a change in your behaviour? We are willing to listen now, but we can't hear it if you don't start telling us. I'd love to hear about how racing was when you were an international rider. You've told us you did it, but all we hear from you is that you have some old bike bits for sale. Do you want to be known around here as "that bloke with old spare parts for sale"? Or would you rather be known as the former Aussie track rider helping young riders to take cycling seriously? The reputation you develop is completely up to you.

Personally, I have no doubt you have forgotten more about cycling (especially track cycling) than I'll ever know. You've told us it has been 30 years since you were serious about riding. That's a long time, so it's perfectly understandable that you've forgotten a lot. For example, I've never known anything about Campag stems, but you've demonstrated that you've forgotten the age of the one you have. (That's a joke ... see the irony in telling me how much you've forgotten? )

Look, we (the community) aren't asking much of you. We're not even asking you to cease trading. All you have to do to get us (the mods) off your back is to put something back into the forum. You claim to know a lot: show us. Start helping the newbies - they want to listen to your stories. Joke around in the half-way cafe section. Tell members where they might get improvements out of their bikes. Don't just sell stuff, or you'll find the door closed to your input (and your income).

I really hope you are willing to contribute outside the market place. It would be a shame to lose an obviously experienced rider's knowledge from the forum.

Cheers,
Graeme

Edit: hotlink to BrentonO's profile removed at his request, but if anyone wants to see it, simply open his profile using the button in one of his posts. Brenton, if you aren't proud of your posting history, I fully understand. However, it is in the public domain already and anyone can view your posts.

[brentono]

Hi Graeme,
Fair enough, a few words, we will leave it at that.
I only took exception, as any member here would when you
are using terms like un-trustworthy, still unfounded.
I never intimated I was an expert on the equipment, as this piece,
and the other I have recently inherited, are after my era, hence my
question, and in that question I threw in 56, which I didn't think anyone
here would take serious, even those with no knowledge.
With the nine members that I have either personally or by PM, had experience
with, since being here, I have found them to be good people, no problems
and we have exchanged knowledge and goods. Although, some others here can
be trying, but you get that with most public forums. I might be the most trying,
if it's a competition, or at least, I can try harder (smiling)
I might just make a point, that I am not happy with you linking my posts,
which are private to this forum, in an open area to be able to be viewed
by anyone (non-members), and I would not think that any forum would not allow that,
(as it is personal, to me, and a security breach)
and you as a mod, and administrator should possibly know better.
I would like you to remove that link, as any member would be able to access that info,
themselves, if they required it. Hope you can understand where I'm coming from,
with this one, and don't think it is an afront to your god-like authority.
Also I see the word "Vintage" used regularly in posts, in the market place, and would
still like to hear from the mods, their definition of what is vintage, and it may be
of benefit to many of the other members, who use the term, also.
This program has now ended.
Thanks for you viewing,
Cheers,
BrentonO

[prawza]

FWIW if you click on someones profile you can see all their previous posts.
So its not just something mods can do, all public members can access anybody's previous posts.

PM messages are different however.

[munga]

clown.

[jacksparrow]

is the seatpost still for sale?

[brentono]

Jacksparrow,
Yes, there are 2 Campag Seatposts for sale,
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=20568#p293195
89-mid 90's era Campagnolo aero post, short version. As posted above,
the Aero posts usually came in a long and short version, think it is a Chorus.
Will take offers, on the Chorus.
The other is a C-Record, as pictured below.
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=20568#p293741
which I am asking $120 for and Sixx has offered $90 (If he still wants it?).
So they are both still available at the moment.
Cheers
BrentonO

[bomberdon]

why is the seatpost "rare"?

Where there like, only 10 built?

[brentono]

Bomberdon,
You may have one, then, if they are common,
so you don't need this one.
Or you may be able to show me,
elsewhere on the net, where they are selling a 27.2mm,
Aero, no decal, short, Campagnolo, same as this post,
in this condition, then?
Cheers
BrentonO

[brentono]

Graeme,
Thanks for removing that link.
Cheers,
BrentonO

[bomberdon]

Thanks for the update!
See, I'm a newbie an know nothing about Campag seatposts, especially ones this short