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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby brentono » Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:21 pm

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No worries, I'm a newbie, also, and on the out, and
I also know nothing about Campag seatposts, but don't worry, it won't
take long and some "encyclopaedic" expert here will sort you out.
Though it would seem, with all the expertise around here, I still
can't seem to find out from any member, what constitutes the
era of Vintage for cycle parts... even "god" does not know?
Hope you enjoy your cycling.
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby Mulger bill » Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:14 pm

I've got a few odd Campag posts at home, most missing the clamps tho :(

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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby Kalgrm » Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:25 pm

Vintage cars are from the 20s and 30s. Vintage motor bikes are from the same era. Since the modern bike style (chain driven rear wheel) originated around the same time as cars and motor bikes, I'd say a vintage bike would be from around the 1920s and 1930s. I'm not fussy though - if you've got something more than 50 years old, I wouldn't complain if the word vintage was used in its description.

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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby brentono » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:34 am

Graeme,
No, not happy, your opinion, doesn't make it so, even if you are "god"?
And you have shown your knowledge, with regards to cars,
by definition, vintage for cars is over 25 years, veteran is over 50.
I had a Vintage '39 Ford Conv' Rod, I did up, so I might know a small
amount about that, eh?
That still doesn't apply to bicycle equipment, and have seen a lot of
discussion on it, and have heard pre-STI quoted.
Still like to hear from someone that might actually know something.
Anyway, thanks for making some effort on it.
I might be difficult, but at least I'm straight (no back-stabbing from me)
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby daacha » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:59 am

Can someone plleeaaasssse put this thread out of its misery. If this was thread was an animal the RSPCA would have prosecuted those involved already!!

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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby spirito » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:47 am

brentono wrote:Graeme,

And you have shown your knowledge, with regards to cars,
by definition, vintage for cars is over 25 years, veteran is over 50.

BrentonO



:shock: :roll:

And you've shown (again) that you have no idea .. about anything

a Vintage VK Commodore :P
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby MichaelB » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:00 pm

daacha wrote:Can someone plleeaaasssse put this thread out of its misery. If this was thread was an animal the RSPCA would have prosecuted those involved already!!

daacha


Amen

Also, as per Wikipedia, Vintage is described as

A vintage car is commonly defined as a car built between the start of 1919 and the end of 1930. There is little debate about the start date of the vintage period--the end of World War I is a nicely defined marker there--but the end date is a matter of a little more debate. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vintage_car


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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby brentono » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:05 pm

Thankyou Spirito,
And your point is... you have 10 fingers and 10 toes,
and you can't add over that.
Holden Commodore / Calais
VK Series
March 1984 - March 1986
So, as at today, any car made before
the 13th Novermber 1984, is Vintage.
Thanks for the confirmation of what I said,
and you showing your ignorance.
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby MichaelB » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:25 pm

brentono wrote:Thankyou Spirito,
And your point is... you have 10 fingers and 10 toes,
and you can't add over that.
Holden Commodore / Calais
VK Series
March 1984 - March 1986
So, as at today, any car made before
the 13th Novermber 1984, is Vintage.
Thanks for the confirmation of what I said,
and you showing your ignorance.
Cheers
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See my post above. 25+ years is not Vintage. QED. :roll:
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby im_no_pro » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:28 pm

brentono wrote:March 1984 - March 1986
So, as at today, any car made before
the 13th Novermber 1984, is Vintage.


So that would make the VB, BC and VH all vintage according to your theory. Dont think so. Same goes for XD and early XE falcs.
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby brentono » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:38 pm

MichaelB,
You didn't read the header in the Wiki article (conveniently)
"This article needs additional citations for verification."
Also, that's the States, and as most articles point out...
"Different countries and states have their own laws and rules regarding vintage cars."
http://www.articlesbase.com/classics-ar ... 26586.html
When you have to deal with the Licensing People, in
Australia, in each state, it will probably be differant,
but I will let you know that I have dealt with them,
and they certainly let me know. And what I stated was
the facts, as I was told, and I leave that there.
And just because you say "Bullsh*t" doesn't make it so.
Keep smiling, and trying, maybe even buying..?
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby MichaelB » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:55 pm

brentono wrote:MichaelB,
.....
Keep smiling, and trying, maybe even buying..?
Cheers,
BrentonO


Not from you I'm afraid.

Can you prove by citation that 25+ is considered Vintage then ? I'd be interested in seeing that. :roll:
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby RobM » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:30 pm

daacha wrote:Can someone plleeaaasssse put this thread out of its misery. If this was thread was an animal the RSPCA would have prosecuted those involved already!!

daacha


+1. Cant believe it all started from selling a $90-120* seatpost! :shock:


*i am by no means commenting its real value. Rare, vintage, classic, ancient, biblical, prehistoric or otherwise.
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby Kalgrm » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:32 pm

Somebody ought to let the Vintage Car Club (the Aussie one) know they are being too restrictive. None of their cars are younger than 1930 (except maybe the Model-T? ).

So, I take it you're proposing older than 25 years as being the limit? Great! I see vintage bikes lying averywhere on hard rubbish collection day. I could make an absolute killing if I pick up the junk and rebadge it as "Vintage" and "Rare". I've still got my (now vintage) Repco Cresta in the shed. I think it's value just tripled! (Provided I can get people to agree with your definition of Vintage. I think I might be a struggle though.)

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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby spirito » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:34 pm

brentono wrote:Thankyou Spirito,
And your point is... you have 10 fingers and 10 toes,
and you can't add over that.
Holden Commodore / Calais
VK Series
March 1984 - March 1986
So, as at today, any car made before
the 13th Novermber 1984, is Vintage.
Thanks for the confirmation of what I said,
and you showing your ignorance.
Cheers
BrentonO





pssst ... March comes before November. The VK was introduced in 1984. That makes it Vintage according to your brilliant synopsis.

Just what did you represent Australia in? :?:
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby munga » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:20 pm

personally, i reckon vintage is anything before... go swallow your own head.
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby bomberdon » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:27 pm

I reckon this thread could make it to a full feature length movie...

Now who would star as Brentono?
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby Mulger bill » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:44 pm

spirito wrote:a Vintage VK Commodore :P
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Aaay check out my sikk Commodore bro', it's fooly vintage.

Nah, can't see that workin'. :roll:

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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby jacksparrow » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:01 pm

...yawn
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby Redbull » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:44 pm

Fark - I'm vintage + :shock:
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby AzzA » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:04 pm

keep feeding the troll...
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby Dan » Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:12 am

I wonder if my broken down VL Commodore Wagon will become classed as vintage upon it's 25th birthday, and thus a represent a more valuable non-functioning vehicle?
It has chrome (short) roofracks - I think they were pretty rare on that model. There's some cosmetic damage to the driver's side door and some more-than-cosmetic damage to the head.
As an aside, can I propose that no-one ever, EVER, use wikipedia for ANYTHING? It's the comic sans of the academic world :wink: or Papyrus if you prefer - it's just as bad.
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby brentono » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:48 pm

FYI-here in WA where I am...
Vintage Automobile Association of Western Australia (Inc).
states...The Committee and members of the Vintage Automobile Association thank you for your interest in our club,
which, although called "VINTAGE", caters for all vehicles built 25 years or more ago.
This club is open to all persons interested in enjoying the fun of motor cars of the veteran, vintage
and up to the classic modern cars of today. - Providing of course that are more than 25 years old.
http://www.vaawa.org.au/abouttheclub.html
So if your car is over 25years old, come to WA and you can be a member.
And if you wear clothes older than 1980, you can find out about your Vintage clothes, here...
http://www.vintageclothing.com.au/
And this is all interesting, and quite OT, and doesn't answer, my original question,
and what this is all about, Q? What is the official definition of Vintage Bicycle Parts.
Now I don't want opinions, or what your mate told you, I need some reliable info.
Is it that hard for the folk here to understand that (well the vocal ones, I mean)
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby brentono » Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:02 pm

and yes, Yawn! it's getting pretty boring for me too...
"The extension of the Mitchell Freeway was
opened in November with more than 50 vintage
cars dating from the 1920s through to the
1960s keenly watched by hundreds of local
residents. The project was delivered $10 million
under budget."
From our Main Roads of WA annual report '09, if you want to check it...
http://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/_layouts ... =2&RCN=D09
So to repeat what I said before,
"Different countries and states have their own laws and rules regarding vintage cars."
And that's the last word I have about Vintage cars, here in WA.
Now feel free to chat about this some where else, if you
don't have any info (links to the definition) on Vintage bike parts, or your not here to buy.
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Re: WTS:Perth: Campag Seatpost 27.2mm short-rare

Postby spirito » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:51 pm

brentono wrote:
So to repeat what I said before,
"I'll trawl for anything on the interwebs so as to make up my own rules regarding vintage cars."


fixed that for you :wink: :P :twisted:
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