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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby 15wilsonwu » Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:13 pm

VERY VERY VERY last question, am I doing this wrong? Everytime I measure my spoke length, it tells me i need 345.9, which is way out of the ones they stock...

What I did was put the Hub flange diameters as the POC listed on the site and put the Flange distance as the.. well, Flange Distance. I dont really see how I got it wrong.

PS, I also put the correct spoke count and rim diameter.
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby usernameforme » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:01 pm

what are the dimensions you are entering? Your spoke lengths are off by quite a way
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby 15wilsonwu » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:07 pm

usernameforme wrote:what are the dimensions you are entering? Your spoke lengths are off by quite a way


They're MM, as in millimeters.
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby usernameforme » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:25 pm

no... what are your actual measurements?
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:26 pm

$10 says you've measured the outside diameter of the rim which is waaaay more than the ERD which you'd know about if you'd lashed out on the Musson eBook...
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby 15wilsonwu » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:35 pm

Mulger bill wrote:$10 says you've measured the outside diameter of the rim which is waaaay more than the ERD which you'd know about if you'd lashed out on the Musson eBook...


You're 10 bucks richer now... hypothetically... hehe :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby 15wilsonwu » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:35 pm

usernameforme wrote:no... what are your actual measurements?


Mulger Bill's correct, I put 700cc instead of the ERD...
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby 15wilsonwu » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:50 pm

Alright, now that i've... or you have solved the problem, i ran straight into another one... The chart has things like R, 1x, 2x, 3x and 4x as shown below

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Which one is the right one?
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby Dan » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:01 pm

$14 says he never buys the book.
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:06 pm

Lacing pattern Wilson. Radial, 2cross, 3cross etc. Have you thought about it? The Musson eBook will help you here...

I'd suggest radial front and 3cross rear.

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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby 15wilsonwu » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:10 pm

i am this -> || <- far from buying the book :lol: :lol:
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby 15wilsonwu » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:12 pm

Mulger bill wrote:Lacing pattern Wilson. Radial, 2cross, 3cross etc. Have you thought about it? The Musson eBook will help you here...

I'd suggest radial front and 3cross rear.

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Right, thanks for the information. I'll have a look at the benifits between different types of lacing.
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby JustJames » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:15 pm

Wilson, buy the ebook.

Yes, you can read the Sheldon Brown article on wheel building. And feel your eyes going googly in your head.

Or do as I and many others on here have done, and read, re-read, re-re-read, re-re-re-...you get the picture, Roger Musson's book.

It's well worth it, and the satisfaction of building up a wheel is mahoosive. So far I've rolled down my road, about 100m, because my bike build does not yet have a drive train. But I rolled those 100m on wheels that I built, without being killed to death.

Buying wheels: choose the lightest you can afford. Decide on a colour.

Building wheels: choose hubs, decide on spoke pattern(s), choose rims, decide on spoke design, obsess over nipple colour (yes, even on a family-friendly forum), revisit hub/rim/spoke/nipple choice several times...
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby clack3rz » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:18 pm

15wilsonwu wrote:Alright, now that i've... or you have solved the problem, i ran straight into another one... The chart has things like R, 1x, 2x, 3x and 4x as shown below

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Which one is the right one?


It relates to the lacing pattern. So if you plan to use (traditional) 3x lacing pattern, then that's the length of the spoke needed.

Seriously dude - if you're planning on doing this yourself get the book, it explains it all (including the lacing patterns above - that table is from the wheelpro site, which is where the book is from, so it's all explained there). If you don't want to do it, go down to your LBS and discuss it with them. If they're a reputable one, and they have a good wheelbuilder there, then you'll get all the info (and right sizing) you need. They can help you understand it all as well.

Not knocking your efforts here, but it's hard on a forum to get all the right info
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby 15wilsonwu » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:36 pm

Yep, I just brought it, like 2.01362742 minutes ago! :wink:

Now all i gotta do is.. uh oh! Get approval to actually buy it.... :( :cry: fingers crossed. Pray for me...please.
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby AJ_ » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:51 pm

This post just keeps on giving! Love it!!
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby Fitzroy » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:14 pm

usernameforme wrote:Go with a 20/24 spoke count if you are using the XR-270 and perhaps a 16:8 lacing on the rear if you are getting it built by a LBS.


So based on the table posted above, if I want a 16DS 8NDS pattern what spoke lengths would I need??
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby 15wilsonwu » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:16 pm

Ok guys, here is my final setup. I went for a radial lacing for the front and 2x lacing for the rear. Any comments?

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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby 15wilsonwu » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:21 pm

Fitzroy wrote:
usernameforme wrote:Go with a 20/24 spoke count if you are using the XR-270 and perhaps a 16:8 lacing on the rear if you are getting it built by a LBS.


So based on the table posted above, if I want a 16DS 8NDS pattern what spoke lengths would I need??


Wait, are you trying to test me or are you genuinely asking for help?
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:27 pm

Yep, read the book at least three times before you touch anything and find a scruffy old wheel you can pull down and rebuild for practice.
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby clack3rz » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:04 am

Mulger bill wrote:Yep, read the book at least three times before you touch anything and find a scruffy old wheel you can pull down and rebuild for practice.


+1

Oh BTW I'd buy extras in spokes and nipples. You never know when/if a spoke will break (after the build) and extra nipples - just in case
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby usernameforme » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:15 am

Don't lace the rear 3 cross, the spoke angle will be too high, I sugges 2x and radial or 1x on the front, make sure you can lace the hub radial, radial lacing puts extra strain on the wheel and some hubs weren't built to be laced radial. Also, I won't use the Sapim Laser on the rear drive side, its a VERY thin spoke and you may have some issues with it, I'd go for the Sapim Race on the rear drive side. If you're building yourself I'd avoid the laser altogether, its really easy to twist and wind up so its a pain to work with, go with the CX-Ray if you are building yourself as the bladed profile will allow you to see spoke wind-up and help you avoid it. And use 12mm nipples, 14mm may make your spokes too long
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby antipodean » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:58 am

Just buy a set of factory wheels.
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby usernameforme » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:11 am

antipodean wrote:Just buy a set of factory wheels.

:lol: :lol: :lol: I guess thats what the extra 200% mark-up is, takes all the thinking and stress out of the job. Its not for everyone and nor is a Factory wheel. I hate all of the propriety parts and the costs of going factory, $20 for A SINGLE spoke is ridiculous... And I thought Titanium spokes were expensive...
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Re: WTB - MEL - Road Wheels (-1400g)

Postby usernameforme » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:17 am

clack3rz wrote:
Mulger bill wrote:Yep, read the book at least three times before you touch anything and find a scruffy old wheel you can pull down and rebuild for practice.


+1

Oh BTW I'd buy extras in spokes and nipples. You never know when/if a spoke will break (after the build) and extra nipples - just in case


+1 on the spare spokes and nipples, but I don't think the book is necessary, all the info you need is on Sheldon's site and miketechinfo.com. Pulling an old wheel apart may not be such a good idea as rebuilding an old wheel is MUCH harder than starting from scratch
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