[BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

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[BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Wed May 29, 2013 8:01 pm

In short - I bought a new frameset, but the size description was way off, and it's at least an inch smaller than was described to me.

Item: Guerciotti Record Frameset - brand new. Never built.
Price: $478 shipped to mainland eastern states and SA. Please talk to me re: WA/TAS/NT. Obviously, price would be adjusted for local pick up.
Postage Available: yep, see above
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Brand new Guerciotti Record lugged steel frameset. Includes frame, fork and headset, as well as a bottom bracket cable guide. 54.5cm top tube, 54cm seat tube ctr to ctr, 130mm headtube. These are the actual measurements - as described in the table below, AND as physically measured by me.

Takes an italian bottom bracket, and braze-on front derailleur. Fork has a 1" threaded steerer, with headset included. Built for 700C wheels, with 130mm rear spacing. Columbus Thron tubing - 27.2 seatpost diameter. 2 sets of bidon cage braze ons, internal rear brake cable routing, and brazed on bosses for downtube shifters/adjusters. Logos are masked/painted, not decals.

Blue in colour - in reality, it's a deeper blue than in this stock image. Actual photos to come in time. I'm actually extremely ^%$#$(AT)^* that it won't fit, as the finish looks really, really nice.

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Actual measurements follow this table...
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Anyway - just looking to recoup costs - its still in the original packaging.... :(

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Dan

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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Fri May 31, 2013 9:24 am

Double post :roll:
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Fri May 31, 2013 9:28 am

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Actual measurements are 124mm headtube, 540mm top tube and 550mm seat tube - measuring tape is more legible in the light.... apologies. I'd call it a small 54.


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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Velo13 » Fri May 31, 2013 12:03 pm

Wow, Dan, I am unhappy this won't fit me. A resto on an old frame would cost more than your asking price ...
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby munga » Fri May 31, 2013 1:08 pm

Velo13 wrote:Wow, Dan, I am unhappy this won't fit me...

you're unhappy? imagine Dan's delight! :D

free bump, and it looks like a miche primato headset.
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Abby » Fri May 31, 2013 4:25 pm

Do you need to use a quill stem for that?
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Fri May 31, 2013 5:53 pm

Abby wrote:Do you need to use a quill stem for that?


Yep, but there are adapters which can be used to allow the fitting of ahead-style stems. Most are butt ugly, but there are some which are less so. I have a range of them if you're interested.
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:26 pm

Bump. I'm at home. You could come look, buy, build and ride tomorrow. Just sayin'.
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby munga » Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:19 am

it does look nice, Dan.
pitty43 wrote:Thanks all for your help. Better change my Gumtree add now.

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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:36 am

Remeasured yesterday - 540mm top tube, 540mm seat tube, 124 head tube. Third time lucky I guess...

Forgot to say, will consider trade for a comparable steel frame in 56 square, or 56tt/57st.
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:31 pm

Bump. Anybody? Bueller?
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby rangersac » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:34 pm

Dan, my bank account is frequently happy that you are a few inches shorter than me.
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby munga » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:18 pm

i'm waiting another week until it's a 53 8)
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:39 pm

rangersac wrote:Dan, my bank account is frequently happy that you are a few inches shorter than me.


...and mine is currently cursing the idiocy of a retailer providing a blatantly incorrect sizing chart alongside their product...

Someone help make my bank account happy once more - bump!!
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Velo13 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:09 pm

Are they helping you out?
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[BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:35 pm

Velo13 wrote:Are they helping you out?


If by 'helping me out' you mean 'ignoring my emails', then yes, yes they are... :shock:

Initial response was quick. Since then? Nothing - hence my continued efforts to move it locally.
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:28 pm

Friday night bump. C'mon!!!

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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby singlespeedscott » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:59 pm

So what size did you actually order Dan?

You do realize that the H2 measurement is from the bottom of the bottom bracket shell to the top of the seat tube not the centre of the shell?Just saying.

Yet another useless Italian bicycle frame measuring technique.

I didn't think that Total cycling had any in stock?

I do like them in blue I just wish it was a 58cm though.
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:25 pm

That's not the sizing chart from which I ordered, Scott - it's the one supplied directly by Guerciotti, which better describes what the actual frame measurements are. In fact, it's not even entirely accurate :shock:
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby singlespeedscott » Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:45 pm

It is Italian mate.
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:45 pm

singlespeedscott wrote:It is Italian mate.


Aye, ain't that the truth.
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[BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:19 am

Ok - how about $400 plus shipping.
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:27 am

Bump.... :(
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby rheicel » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:04 am

Will 60/70mm quill look good on that one? effective TT s a bit too long for me I guess!
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Re: [BNE] NEW Guerciotti Record Frameset 54cm

Postby Dan » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:18 am

rheicel wrote:Will 60/70mm quill look good on that one? effective TT s a bit too long for me I guess!


I run 70mm quills on all my frames rheicel - have a look at my Viner here and Colnago here - I think the proportion of a 70mm works well with 56 and under. Harder to find a 60mm, but shorter reach bars (which I also happen to have here) would fix that.

Have PM'd you rheicel...

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