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What are the issues that would make the rear wheel can not skid?
type of tyres? (My one is new)
type of hubs? (Quanto Flip Flop)
type of wheels? ( star wheels)
gear ratio? (mine is 52x16, will change to 52x19 later)
skill? (yea, i know i don't have)
Because even when I stand on the bike and lean to the handlebar and lock up my legs to anginst the pedal come to me, but the power still too big and even push me up......Is this normal or anything i have to concentrate?
Tire is new - more grip or whatever and hence more friction, but eventually you'll get used to it (I did).
Hubs have nothing to do with skid stopping as far as I know.
Wheels don't really matter either.
52x16 is like quite big I think and so skidding is harder i.e. lower gear = easier skids.
But yeah other things you could try is practice on grass or wet ground (BL that winter ended already) or smooth ground (like basketball courts...) or switch out rear tire for a used one which I heard you can get from LBS dumpster or if you ask them if they have any spares.
Get your weight far enough forward and it won't matter what gear or tyre you have...make sure you have someone with a video camera because accidents are so much more fun on replay.
When I was new to this I was pretty puzzled why it can look so easy.
What is seen like abit of a given is that you have toe clips, if you don't have any I highly recommend getting some because skidding is sooo hard with out them on that kind of ratio especially.
Once I got toe clips I didn't even have to lean forward or any of that
Also just to make things easier here is a chart you can use to get a general idea.
Skid spots are also very important as you don't want to be skidding on the same bit of tyre all the time
To make skidding easier try and get your ratio in the early to mid 70's or very late 60's. With the 19 tooth you should be able skid pretty well on 73.9
I ride on 46 18 and skidding is so easy with clips of course
As well as the ratio considerations;
Start on shallow downhills and get to feel the bike speeding up and you can learn to modulate you speed without using the brakes. You learn the technique of resisting the upstroke of the rearward pedal with your body weight - and with pedal retention of somesort you help that motion by pulling up on the forward pedal as it wants go down. Clipless are more effective than clips & straps; But good fitting & well adjusted clips & straps are still way better than nothing.... and have more cred amongst the tight jean set, as so correctly highlighted by Tallywhacker.
Otherwise practice practice practice! But please, leave the brakes fitted & adjusted for insurance. Pedal retention also helps to that first time you spin out - cos once you feet come off the pedals at a high cadence; you'll be danged if you can get them back on without putting some nice CopperArt style dimpling in your shin bones. Calcium kindling
Last edited by HappyHumber on Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
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If you want to skid-stop, you need to ride around in a much lower gear at first, and then change to higher gears.
That really hurts. I remember doing that down a hill and had to end up braking with my shoes lol
Only a front brake is necessary
Shows us your videos of doing 2 wheel drifts TLL
Best tip for practicing skid stops is at a location with a smooth surface, like shiny granite pavers - and when the surface is wet, it is even easier.
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I get the Boss's point, aaron. I only really first got the best idea of the skid thing when there was less traction - a wet, hotmix road. I had been riding fixed for a while and hadn't really got the idea, possibly because of a too higher gear to begin with, combined with my relative leg strength and otherwise good road grip.
Just because the surface is slippery - doesn't mean to say you have to hold your skid.. just briefly, for probably <10cm or so before your weight & balance begins to shift towards toppling over. It's just to get the idea of the overall weight shift and pedal motion.
...little baby steps... we can't all be MASH stars in the first few weeks.
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Agree with smooth surfaces and practise. It took me a little while to get use to the action to skid. At speed its still a challenge at times, i've fitted a front brake now to help in case of emergency.
If your running a big gear it does take some leg strength too.
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