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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby william » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:51 am

Just come back to this thread after waiting so long for Riggsby to get his.
Great stuff. But I am also surprised with the line up of velos already here and those who will be agonising by the wait.
I see a couple of roto velos around Melbourne (or Melbum) that is becoming more frequent lately but trying to catch one to say g'day is difficult at best.
With Nitramluap's videos amongst others they can easily become an infectious passion.

Sigh! Should I look at my bank account?

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Bartek » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:50 pm

Thanks for the replies guys, I posted on the Sinner facebook page and they tell me that they are a dealer for Radical Designs so I may be able to add the bags to the order and save on some postage!

What is the "Harry Leiben approved aircon unit-water spray bottle"?

Burnt - if you are trying to shed weight look up "The Paleo Diet" by Dr. Loren Cordain. I changed to a Paleo lifestyle about 2.5 years ago to reduce my bad cholesterol and ended up not only improving my cholesterol but also dropping 20kg, attaining a bmi of 21, reducing my blood pressure by 10 points, improving my fasting blood sugar and dropping my resting heart rate by 10 points. I usually tell people that ask me about it, to try it for 6 weeks and see the results for yourself.
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby burnt » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:25 pm

The spray bottle is just that- a spray bottle which you use to mist water over face neck and head-very efficient for cooling!

I have read widely about various diets, paleo, low carb, high carb, high fat, low fat, Meditteranean Diets, Okinawan programs, China Programs etc etc.
There is so much conflicting evidence out there, diet proponents of regimes that are polar opposites-McDougall/Ornish/ vs Paleo/Low carb/High fat, only serve to confuse people who want to be choosing a safe and effective method to losing weight.

The common theme I have picked up in my reading is fruits, vegetables, unprocessed foods as much as possible-moderation in other words. I am glad the paleo diet has worked for you, those improvements are stunning!

My hunch is low fat, high carb is not as effective as mod fat low carb diets, sticking with something is the hard part.

I'm hoping Mangos of both persuasions will be good for me!! :P
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Riggsbie » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:53 pm

William,

If you are down Geelong way you are most welcome to take a look at my Mango.......although you will be tempted.......

I just purchased a wind chiller......it's really effective !!
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Roinik » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:50 pm

burnt wrote:The common theme I have picked up in my reading is fruits, vegetables, unprocessed foods as much as possible-moderation in other words. I am glad the paleo diet has worked for you, those improvements are stunning!

My hunch is low fat, high carb is not as effective as mod fat low carb diets, sticking with something is the hard part.


We've found that we're eating healthier and cheaper now that we've got ourselves a Thermomix and some decent cookbooks from Tenina Holder, Stephanie Alexander and Chef Laurent. Not cheap, however it's paid for itself in under a year and I'm fiddle as a fit with commuting and eating a balanced diet in moderation. No preservatives and colours also means that the kids are better behaved (that yellow food colouring is a curse at parties). This, fortunately, is a cycling forum so I won't go on.

I wish the the best in getting to your goal weight, health and fitness.
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Rhubarb » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:22 pm

BOT ....

Here's a link I came across today that some others may find useful. The mango originated in the same factory as the quest so many things are the same, and many of the set up principles are generic.

http://www.bluevelo.com/uploads/2012_Us ... _info2.pdf
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby John Lewis » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:14 pm

Well I've been away a few days in the city so just catching up on the goings on.

We are beginning to need a velonauts map like the North American Velomobile one to keep track of us all. :D

I too got the radical Velo bags. I ordered direct from Radical along with the trailer hitch part I needed. Very quick and good service which was refreshingly different after the wait for the mango.

Yep. Paul is the MAN. Sinner certainly should be paying commissions. Certainly Paul's videos helped sway my choice.

Unfortunately my mango riding is curtailed at present but I have had a few slow short rides on the trike in very low gears. Once I finally see the specialist and get this SVT sorted I hope I'll be back riding again. Don't know how much longer I have to wait. They said I'd be contacted within 30 days and it must be approaching that.
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby william » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:00 pm

I was looking over the photos of the recently delivered mango to riggsbie.
I noticed the van doors were not closed for some time and my wife wanted to know if your garage is a warehouse.
I don't think women should go in a mans shed. Too many questions get asked.
My wife said its ok for me to say that.

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Rhubarb » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:07 pm

Here's my video from the Brisbane to Gold Coast ride last weekend.

The speed differentials up and down hills, will give you a fair idea of what its like "living with a velomobile".

It was a great day out for the BSMUG (Brisbane Sinner Mango User Group) squadron :-)

http://youtu.be/z0BZl2O1Nxs
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Baalzamon » Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:39 pm

Rhubarb wrote:Here's my video from the Brisbane to Gold Coast ride last weekend.

The speed differentials up and down hills, will give you a fair idea of what its like "living with a velomobile".

It was a great day out for the BSMUG (Brisbane Sinner Mango User Group) squadron :-)

http://youtu.be/z0BZl2O1Nxs


Lets fix that up and embed it for you ;)
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Bartek » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:06 pm

Well done, Great video, pity about the ending :D

I take it the trip home was little slower?

What camera were you using? and what size battery? I notice Paul uses GoPro front and rear would be interesting to see how each of you has mounted the camera's.




BTW all, got a reply from Sinner they have answered all my questions and will be supplying the Velo bags and a trailer hitch (male & female).
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Roinik » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:24 am

More importantly, where did Mr 'Not So Fast Now!' finish?
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Rhubarb » Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:28 am

Roinik wrote:More importantly, where did Mr 'Not So Fast Now!' finish?


Mr "Not so fast now!" was smoked on the other side of that hill, but he was fine - it was all good natured stuff :-)
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Rhubarb » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:27 am

Bartek wrote:Well done, Great video, pity about the ending :D

I take it the trip home was little slower?

What camera were you using? and what size battery? I notice Paul uses GoPro front and rear would be interesting to see how each of you has mounted the camera's.



Thanks - I really am an amateur at this video game. But without me you wouldn't appreciate how good Nitramluap's vids are ;)

My camera is just a cheap eBay 808 jumbo spy camera. Cost me $40 delivered. The battery lasts 100 minutes on a charge which covers my commutes in and out. It can also run off USB for endless recording subject to 32Gb card limit. That's what I did for the B2GC. I've no idea why it switched off when it did but it wasn't battery or card storage.

The camera records 720p (AT) 30fps and does a reasonable job in low light. It is not as good as proper gopro etc but much smaller, cheaper and sufficient for amateur needs at this stage ...

Oh and it's not waterproof.

I mounted it on a bracket on the RHS mirror but can also attach to helmet due to its small form factor.
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Bartek » Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:38 pm

I have done a couple of video's myself using my GoPro but they are not on a par with Nitramluap's either. On the trike I usually use the helmet mount but that can lead to the video jump side to side as you look around.


Will we see a Nitramluap video of the same event soon? also I am waiting for the Nitramluap night-time Mango Monkeylectric video
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Joeblake » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:40 pm

Rhubarb,

I was watching your Gold Coast video while listening to http://www.abc.net.au/classic/classic100/default.htm . What a way to spend a Sunday. Listening to French music and riding a 'bent trike.

The best I've done is hike my old Peugeot DR10 from Kelvin Grove to Beenleigh and back, in 1979. Not quite the same as yours. :cry:

Thanks for that.

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby John Lewis » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:57 pm

Enjoyed that Rhubarb.

I thought Paul's mango looked to be rocking in time to his pedalling. Realised though that it was an artifact of the deshaker.
Caught by two traffic lights. Can't help bad luck eh?
Clown on the motorbike was just showing his unicycling skills I think. :mrgreen:
I can see where a very light electric motor of 50 - 100w with only quite a small battery would be handy. Probably only add about 2 kg. It would be nice for the take off at the lights and to help overcome the weight penalty on the hills. I remember John Tetz designed something like that. Not for the purists though I guess.
Anyway it looks like you all enjoyed the day. wish I coud havebeen along too.

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby Joeblake » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:07 pm

John Lewis wrote:I thought Paul's mango looked to be rocking in time to his pedalling. Realised though that it was an artifact of the deshaker.


Is that what it was? I thought he was going around the corners so fast the centrifugal force was causing the light rays to bend. :mrgreen:

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby smoran » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:15 pm

John Lewis wrote:I can see where a very light electric motor of 50 - 100w with only quite a small battery would be handy. Probably only add about 2 kg. It would be nice for the take off at the lights and to help overcome the weight penalty on the hills. I remember John Tetz designed something like that. Not for the purists though I guess.
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Electric Assist is available on the Sinner Mango. Up to you to determine if it is legal in your State though ...

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby John Lewis » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:21 pm

Joeblake wrote:
John Lewis wrote:I thought Paul's mango looked to be rocking in time to his pedalling. Realised though that it was an artifact of the deshaker.


Is that what it was? I thought he was going around the corners so fast the centrifugal force was causing the light rays to bend. :mrgreen:

Joe


Dang! I should have realised. Back to the Future and all that. :D :D :D
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby John Lewis » Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:24 pm

smoran wrote:
John Lewis wrote:I can see where a very light electric motor of 50 - 100w with only quite a small battery would be handy. Probably only add about 2 kg. It would be nice for the take off at the lights and to help overcome the weight penalty on the hills. I remember John Tetz designed something like that. Not for the purists though I guess.
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Electric Assist is available on the Sinner Mango. Up to you to determine if it is legal in your State though ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqni993ig_I&noredirect=1


Yes I have seen that. It's not really what I had in mind.

This is the one I was thinking of. Very clever and light weight.

http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/tetz/e-assistmetric/

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby John Lewis » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:40 pm

Missed the Anniversary

I just realised that it is a bit over a year since I ordered my mango.
It was on the 30th of September 2011 if I recall rightly.
I think it was another 7 months almost to the day before it arrived on my doorstep though.

Sadly I've only managed 407 km since I got it and it will be a while I think before I get to ride it again due to this silly SVT health problem .

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby rdp_au » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:40 am

John Lewis wrote:Missed the Anniversary

I just realised that it is a bit over a year since I ordered my mango.
It was on the 30th of September 2011 if I recall rightly.
I think it was another 7 months almost to the day before it arrived on my doorstep though.

Sadly I've only managed 407 km since I got it and it will be a while I think before I get to ride it again due to this silly SVT health problem .

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John,

I had to get on line to find out about SVT. Sounds like there are a few ways of getting it sorted without lasting effects. Hope it works out for you.
In the meantime, you'll just have to keep polishing the Mango and sitting in it and making 'pedal, pedal' noises :)

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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby adrian_d » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:28 am

These look absolutely stunning, i'm hugely jealous of anyone that has owned/owns or has ever seen/ridden one of these in real life

I think this is innovation pushed to the highest point.

Now to find the money for one haha. Whats the usual impressions of people when riding on the bike paths?
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Re: Living with a velomobile

Postby John Lewis » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:19 pm

rdp_au wrote:
John Lewis wrote:Missed the Anniversary

I just realised that it is a bit over a year since I ordered my mango.
It was on the 30th of September 2011 if I recall rightly.
I think it was another 7 months almost to the day before it arrived on my doorstep though.

Sadly I've only managed 407 km since I got it and it will be a while I think before I get to ride it again due to this silly SVT health problem .

John


John,

I had to get on line to find out about SVT. Sounds like there are a few ways of getting it sorted without lasting effects. Hope it works out for you.
In the meantime, you'll just have to keep polishing the Mango and sitting in it and making 'pedal, pedal' noises :)

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Rds,


Thanks for the reply David,

The problem really is the long wait to be seen and then probably another long wait before anything is done.
I need to put in some really low gears and ride. I do ride the trike quietly to the shops. Really low gear and about 6 kmh. Ay much more and it can start the heartrate up. If I'm careful it hovers round 80% while riding even with the minimum effort I'm expending. I might as well ride as it does the same walking and at least you can coast down hill when riding. 30 GI low on the velo is too high though.

Reading on the net is a good way to scare yourself at times. Oe thing I read is about pacemakers. A friend has one for pretty much the same problem. He takes meds to slow heart and then the PM speeds it up to normal. Problem that I read is that using welders, power tools etc become a no no with a PM so I wouldn't be happy with that. I'm hoping there is a simple explanation. Fingers crossed.

I really want to get out there and hammer the mango though.

Hope you are giving your new machine plenty of exercise.

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