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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby Riggsbie » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:31 pm

Instead of a simple jack shaft I am going to use a mid drive using an Alfine IGH to get the drive on the left hand side.....the Alfine has to drive on the right but I have an adaptor to fit a sprocket where the disc brake should mount which gives me a drive on the left side from the Alfine hub......

Still need to figure if a 5.5" wide rim will be too mental, might start with a much narrower 3" wide rim.....

All scheming at this stage.....


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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby DentedHead » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:59 pm

Riggsbie wrote:
Still need to figure if a 5.5" wide rim will be too mental, might start with a much narrower 3" wide rim.....

All scheming at this stage.....


Phhffft. No such thing as "too mental". Once I figure a way to build the wheel mount, the first chopper I build will be for my neighbour, using one of his old Nissan 350Z rear wheels. 18" diameter, 9" or 10" wide...


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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby Mulger bill » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:51 am

DentedHead wrote:
Riggsbie wrote:
Still need to figure if a 5.5" wide rim will be too mental, might start with a much narrower 3" wide rim.....

All scheming at this stage.....


Phhffft. No such thing as "too mental". Once I figure a way to build the wheel mount, the first chopper I build will be for my neighbour, using one of his old Nissan 350Z rear wheels. 18" diameter, 9" or 10" wide...


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Go to Atomic Zombie Dent, they have plans for a chopper like that.

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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby DentedHead » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:36 am

Yeah, I've seen pics (you're talking about the "Phat-Ass Extreme Chopper" I believe?). My difficulty comes from keeping the actual 350Z mag rather than spoking the wheel. I have a few ideas for how to mount it, but currently lack the tools required to implement those ideas. Basically, I would replicate the wheel mount from an actual 350Z, but I first need the correct tap and die to allow the wheel to bolt on, and would need to make some disc rotor mounts, as the wheel would need some serious braking ability given its weight and the inertia it would gain once rolling. Currently, these two requirements are beyond my post Xmas budget, and the rotor mounts are probably beyond my fabricating skill as well (for now).


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Postby Riggsbie » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:22 pm

Sounds like you will need to fabricate a single sided swing arm type of setup....

Check out pictures of VFR 750/800 or RC 30/45

They will give you inspiration !


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Postby DentedHead » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:27 pm

Sort of, yeah, though the mag rim does have a hole in the center which would allow an axle to mount onto a custom rear triangle. It would just mean the wheel bolts onto the axle, then the axle bolts on to the frame. I do like the swing arm idea though, and it would look much cooler.


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Postby Riggsbie » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:25 pm

And give you a suspension option too !!
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Postby DentedHead » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:59 am

Update time...

The "Loafer" now has a new fairing and name... for your entertainment and amusement, I present....



...the "Armoured Bear"
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And with the front open...
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Still a few things to do before I'd call it done though. It needs some gusseting where the boom meets the crossbar, as well as possibly some stoppers to prevent the front fairing flipping right over. I also have a nice piece of clear poly-carbonate I'm going to make a windscreen from, and of course I ran out of nuts and bolts, so need to replace quite a bit of tape when my nuts and bolts arrive. I'd like to think once that's all done, I'll paint it, but my track record of getting stuff painted is pretty dismal.

Oh, and I've got to put a floor in from the crossbar back to the rear. That'll be right before the painting that probably won't happen.


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Postby Mulger bill » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:53 pm

Why does the word "Morgan" keep popping into my head?...
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Postby John Lewis » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:53 pm

Hey Dent,
I reckon you got inspiration for the front of your velo from the carapace of a crayfish or a yabby. :mrgreen:

Quite a neat way to get a respectable shape. I like it.

Here are some photos of a velo built in Tassi. It improved the performance of the trike a heap. I think you can find it in old posts Back a few years on BROL.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23600382@N06/page3/

Be interested to hear if you get a performance boost too.

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Postby DentedHead » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:46 am

Yeah, I saw that one while I was googling home-built velos. Nice clean build, though the "lines" don't appeal to me. I wanted "WWI fighter/sub" where that one reminds me of an Ironclad Battleship.

This is kinda what I was going for...
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As with all "first try" projects, future ones will look better. Maybe I'll even get close to the dream ;)

It's kinda hard to tell if I get a performance boost, at least until I put the comp on. I find I can't gauge my speed very well with the fairing, but I was never real fast to begin with. I average about 27kph commuting when on road in the Kodiak, but most of my riding is slower, and the velo is heavier, and very differently geared. I certainly don't feel real fast in it (yet).


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Postby Riggsbie » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:00 pm

I know what you mean.....

In the Mango, during a long ride, you get the feeling you are going quite slowly after a while but when you look at the cycle computer you are 'bimbling along' at a steady 30kph.......

It's all relative !
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Postby DentedHead » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:35 pm

Well, the chain-slip turned out to be just a chain tension issue. :)

Started the "tinker" phase now ( make and fit the windscreen, work out where bottle cages go, where mini tool kit goes, what can be turned into storage, could I make arm-rests out of cor-flute offcuts etc,). I added some rough and ready colour, in what I think of as "Mango Red" which is in reality the left over cans I had from other projects, so that should make me go a bit faster. ;) I also need to look into dampening the chain noise. The cor-flute carries it amazingly well... I have some foam than might work, but I think it'll be more likely I need to find actual sound dampening foam.

Riggsbie wrote:...during a long ride, you get the feeling you are going quite slowly after a while but when you look at the cycle computer you are 'bimbling along' at a steady 30kph...


This is exactly my desired outcome! :D


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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby DentedHead » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:24 am

I prettied her up a bit. Also just added a 50mm "faux-chrome" racing stripe along the line where the red faded into the grey. About to take her for a ride across town, in 31degrees with a gale blowing. Can't think of a better test ride ;)


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Postby barefoot » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:12 pm

DentedHead wrote:About to take her for a ride across town, in 31degrees with a gale blowing. Can't think of a better test ride ;)


... and he rode off into the distance, and was never heard from again! :shock:

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Postby Roinik » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:09 pm

Last seen doing laps around lake Wendouree.

Reluctantly crouched at the starting line,
Engines pumping and thumping in time.
The green light flashes, the flags goes up,
Churning and burning, they yern for the cup.

They deftly manouver and muscle for rank,
Fuel burning fast on an empty tank,
Wreckless and wild they pour thru the turns,
Their prowless is podent and secretly stern.

As they speed thru the finish the flags go down.
The fans get up, and get out of town.
The arena is empty except for one man,
Still driving and striving as fast as he can

The sun has gone down and the moon has come up,
And long ago somebody left with the cup,
But he's driving and striving and hugging the turns,
And thinking of someone for whom he still burns.

He's going the distance.
He's going for speed.
She's all alone, all alone in her time of need.
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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby DentedHead » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:30 am

Hahahaha, awesomely appropriate.

I was in fact in a HPV race on Sat up at the Casey-Cardinia crit track. It was meant to be a Secondary School team, but the strike action by teachers meant no students could come, so instead we entered in the open "Community" category, racing the Bacchus Marsh College trike. While we were back-markers in our category (some of those teams are FAST!) we had a great day anyway. I forgot to bring a camera, but I'll try to get some pics the others took and post them here, but the Casey-Cardinia HPV and Cycling club will have pics on their facebook page soon no doubt.


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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby DentedHead » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:53 pm

Update time :)

I got drenched in the velo recently, and seeing as winter is on its way, I decided I needed a roof for it. No side windows yet, as with them fitted I cannot indicate when turning until I get so actual indicators fitted (apparently a blinking amber light is "too technical" for my local Jaycar guys... bloody useless...)

Anyway, pics!

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What do those of you with hooded velo's do for indicators? I understand the Mango's have them already... what about other makes such as RV's with aftermarket hoods etc?


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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby fthills » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:54 pm

That is just so so cool.

For indicator: how about a 2 plastic hands (one for each side) on the end of a pivoted arm . Pull the lever from inside the cockpit and the hand comes up
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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby Baalzamon » Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:55 pm

You might need to rig up a circuit to do a blinking flasher.
Don't think it would be too hard to rig up either.
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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby barefoot » Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:56 pm

I'm sure you can get 12V strobe lights from JayTanDicks, in lots of colours including orange.

Not sure how you adjust strobe rate, but a pair of them should be pretty visible...

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Postby }SkOrPn--7 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:35 pm

I'm impressed DH while I haven't been around lately I have been following your work and thanks for sharing it's inspirational.

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Postby Mulger bill » Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:58 pm

Have a look through THIS thread for blinker ideas Dent, you might get lucky.

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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby Roinik » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:10 pm

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Re: Greetings from Ballarat, Recumbenteers :)

Postby DentedHead » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:40 am

Thanks guys. I've temporarily removed the roof for now, but it's good to know there are some products out there similar to what I'm looking for. It's looking like a motorbike wrecker is my best bet for something I can modify to suit the velo.


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