2014 Tour de France

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Re: 2014 Tour de France

Postby Xplora » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:06 pm

sogood wrote:
AndyRevill wrote:However, probably no medals in the personality stakes :)

Is personality a criteria of assessment for these honours?

I'd argue that personality IS a criteria for a knighthood. If Rolf Harris had not been given anything before, do you think they'd give him anything now?

Anyways, Nibali won, Astana has awful colours and Porte needs to find another level if he expects to succeed in the GTs.
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Re: 2014 Tour de France

Postby sogood » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:36 pm

Xplora wrote:
sogood wrote:Is personality a criteria of assessment for these honours?

I'd argue that personality IS a criteria for a knighthood...

This is not a point of argument. The question was, is personality an assessment criteria for British knighthood?
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Re: 2014 Tour de France

Postby Xplora » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:40 pm

Google is your friend, if you want facts. Endless conjecture - you don't have to leave the padded walls of BNA at all :lol:
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Re: 2014 Tour de France

Postby sogood » Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:57 pm

No more so than uninvited argument. It's a forum! :D
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Re: 2014 Tour de France

Postby Dirty32 » Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:39 pm

cyclotaur wrote:Just that you seemed to be annoyed by a small symbol of his English-ness. Maybe it's part psychological denial of his father, who knows?

I don't mind a bit of individuality myself, even within a team. It seems to work for Wiggo, anyway.


Not at all... I am English / British myself.

I actually like Wiggo. I like his persona, his individuality and what he seems to have brought to the sometimes insipid and sterile world of cycling (from the outside looking in, of course)... I personally much prefer him to Froome and many others that just seem very clinical and lack a bit of personality.

As I said earlier, perhaps its a branding & marketing thing, ala David Beckham, Christiano Ronaldo, Lebron James or various other sporting Megastars, that will continue to sell merchandise long after they retire. Perhaps he just likes it... I dont know. Cavendish has his own line of kit / colours, Griepel has his little Gorilla thing going on... I am sure that there are many others that have their own little mascot / trademark to differentiate themselves a little, in the industry. I just find that the Mod Motif that Wiggo uses lacks a bit of originality, is all.

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Another point in his favour. :)


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Re: 2014 Tour de France

Postby cyclotaur » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:49 pm

Hahahaha - that explains a fair bit! :):)
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Re: 2014 Tour de France

Postby GAV!N » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:26 pm

Xplora wrote:
sogood wrote:
AndyRevill wrote:However, probably no medals in the personality stakes :)

Is personality a criteria of assessment for these honours?

I'd argue that personality IS a criteria for a knighthood. If Rolf Harris had not been given anything before, do you think they'd give him anything now?

Anyways, Nibali won, Astana has awful colours and Porte needs to find another level if he expects to succeed in the GTs.


Porte had a pretty terrible lead up to the tour and suffered a viral infection through the tour which no doubt affected his performance. I agree he probably needs to find another level, but I wouldn't say this tour was his perfect tour. Problem is with Team Sky it's unlikely he'll get another chance for at least a few years...not in the tour anyway, Giro or Vuelta maybe...but will Sky let him?
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Re: 2014 Tour de France

Postby Xplora » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:54 am

Virus schmirus, Quintana was sick and won the Giro :lol:

The other level includes all that. You can't really rely on perfect conditions for a 12 month preparation. You have to work out how to win despite adversity. Now this is deeply unreasonable on Porte who was domestique, not team leader. And he did better than Froome. And Contador. And Cadel. But he also did better than Mercx and Xplora too while not winning, so beating people who didn't race the Tour don't really count.

I hope OGE can lift next year but I think targeting the Giro was a better plan. We will see!
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