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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby hannos » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:08 pm

I would expect that would be considered a mechanical, and the peloton would have waited.
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby gauchoracer » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:09 pm

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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby jules21 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:09 pm

arkle wrote:How would the Tour cyclists, and the cycling community generally, have reacted if Contador had had a puncture and Schleck had continued on and won the Tour?

on the last stage? widespread outrage and rioting :)

schleck actually lost his chain again yesterday while he and contador were on a mock attack. there was no question of attacking, they were sharing a laugh together.
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby Addict » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:18 pm

just watched the highlights and have to say cavdendish's acceleration is fkng phenominal ... the camera shows big thor being led out.. petacchi creeping up.. and BANGGG! all you see is mark rocketing across the screen from the otherside.. crazy stuff..
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby roller » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:38 pm

Strawburger wrote:
toolonglegs wrote:LA is being a naughty boy with his team today... :lol: .


Typical attention seeking Americans :roll: If he wants to ride in a charity ride, he should turn up to a charity event, not the Tour de France. There is a time and place for everything...


yeah terrible form.

instead of letting the jersey winners have the focus on them on the last stage it was "ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!!! i'm fighting cancer and you want me to change my jersey!" :roll:

so glad he won't be back next year.

or will he.

oh god. phil, paul. . and now . . LANCE in the commentary box.
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby Joeblake » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:48 pm

roller wrote:
oh god. phil, paul. . and now . . LANCE in the commentary box.



(Texan Drawl): "Well, yeah, okay so he won the stage. But if it had been ME..."

:lol:

Actually I believe he WILL retire this time ... for good.

And if I'd been standing by the roadside when Lance was changing his jersey, I'd be waving my cheque book/credit card ... "Mr Armstrong, $5000 to Livestrong if I can have that black jersey ..."


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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby jules21 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:50 pm

Addict wrote:just watched the highlights and have to say cavdendish's acceleration is fkng phenominal ... the camera shows big thor being led out.. petacchi creeping up.. and BANGGG! all you see is mark rocketing across the screen from the otherside.. crazy stuff..

it would make sense if he had a motor in his bike. it's hard to believe anyone can be that fast
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby Joeblake » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:56 pm

Maybe now that Mark I has shown that he doesn't always need Mark II, Mark II might be able to change teams and start going for sprint stages himself. Could be v-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-r-y interesting, having another top gun sprinter to give Aussie Green.

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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby aussieboy13 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:44 pm

roller wrote:so glad he won't be back next year.

or will he.

oh god. phil, paul. . and now . . LANCE in the commentary box.



I believe he may be trying to go back to his triathlon Roots.

But mind you perhaps this tour taught him he is an old man now compared to everybody else.

Heaven help if he makes it to KONA.
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby jules21 » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:46 pm

aussieboy13 wrote: But mind you perhaps this tour taught him he is an old man now compared to everybody else.

he may have well have finished strongly had it not been for all those incidents that ruined his day in the alps(?)
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby toolonglegs » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:40 pm

aussieboy13 wrote:
roller wrote:so glad he won't be back next year.

or will he.

oh god. phil, paul. . and now . . LANCE in the commentary box.



I believe he may be trying to go back to his triathlon Roots.

But mind you perhaps this tour taught him he is an old man now compared to everybody else.

Heaven help if he makes it to KONA.


When he was been interviewed by Jaja at the end as he walked off he called out something like "see you at the triathlon next year".

Also I don't think the time is calculated on the first lap crossing of the line...if Schleck had turned from a skin and bones mountain man into a burly kermesse man over night and attacked and stayed away...maybe it needed rain for that :wink: ...oh and a shimano drive train.
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby brentono » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:15 pm

AUbicycles wrote:
Brento On the 39secs - I think Schleck may have gotten it wrong. Checking on the net - a few other blog authors have noticed this as well... Winner stands though.

Lets see if Petacchi gets to keep his green :?:


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Petacchi keeps Green Jersey :lol:

After thought, Schleck didn't get it wrong, I'm now sure, he had it right.
The rule goes for the TT, (just came to me)- if two riders are on the same time,
a countback, of the hundredths of seconds are added, over the four time intervals, on TT stage.
Schleck must have known this figure (as he would), and it totalled another 2 seconds, that he was down on Contador.
That my thoughts. :wink:
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby Chuck » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:45 pm

aussieboy13 wrote:
roller wrote:so glad he won't be back next year.

or will he.

oh god. phil, paul. . and now . . LANCE in the commentary box.



I believe he may be trying to go back to his triathlon Roots.


Thought I heard the Hawaiian ironman was in his sights :?
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby AUbicycles » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:07 pm

Thanks Brentono - that sounds logical.

I think Cavendish does benefit from Renshaw - because Renshaw does the work of choosing the line and making position - along, Cav has to do it himself when alone and has to concentrate and think about more. Agree - the acceleration was amazing, and the posture, crouched with bums up.
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby Parrott » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:24 pm

Addict wrote:just watched the highlights and have to say cavdendish's acceleration is fkng phenominal ... the camera shows big thor being led out.. petacchi creeping up.. and BANGGG! all you see is mark rocketing across the screen from the otherside.. crazy stuff..



I read that and thought yeah he is pretty fast, but that is a bit over the top. Not if you watch this, from 8:52, the difference in speed is amazing :o . You had it spot on.
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby familyguy » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:45 pm

Addict wrote:just watched the highlights and have to say cavdendish's acceleration is fkng phenominal ... the camera shows big thor being led out.. petacchi creeping up.. and BANGGG! all you see is mark rocketing across the screen from the otherside.. crazy stuff..


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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby Baldy » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:45 pm

I dont even like mark 1 but the side on view of the sprint when he comes into view makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up :shock: Its just crazy...

He sure has the build for it I guess, with his stumpy little body and t-rex arms it just works :lol:

Be interesting to see him go against Griepel and lotto next year, I dont know that the big fella is as fast but if he does take that chunky nugget Bert with him its going to be head down, bums up and elbows sharpened :twisted:

For my first real time following the whole tour its been great, frustrating at times but im hopelessly addicted now. Im even thinking about going for a roll around with the vets this summer, which is something I never thought I'd do! But I figure you can make what you want out of it, kind of like an amped up training ride....do my work on the front early and then sit in for a while and enjoy riding in the bunch then trail off the back whenever I like. It would be worth the race fee's just to check out the bike porn :mrgreen:

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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby AUbicycles » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:24 am

Baldy wrote:He sure has the build for it I guess, with his stumpy little body and t-rex arms it just works :lol:


Just curious Baldy, is this what you saw crossing the line first in Paris yesterday?

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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby Baldy » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:54 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby Fletcher » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:50 am

Baldy wrote:For my first real time following the whole tour its been great, frustrating at times but im hopelessly addicted now.


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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby brentono » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:50 am

Baldy wrote:I dont even like mark 1

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One sprint "wonder" that's why he will never wear the Green Jersey, at the end of Le Tour. :wink:
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby toolonglegs » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:25 pm

I would be quite happy to be that one sprint wonder!...if he gets to the finish line in Geelong he will be in stripes...and going to the Vuelta means he is pretty serious about it.
That and he may already be in green depending o what happens in Italy :roll: .
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby AUbicycles » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:35 pm

brentono, he came pretty close - and if Petacchi didn't make it in second - it may have been a very real chance. As TLL mentioned, less see what happen in Italy.

You can certainly argue on personality though he shares his success with his team and 6 stage wins last year and 5 this year is a pretty solid effort.
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby brentono » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:53 pm

AUbicycles wrote:brentono, he came pretty close - and if Petacchi didn't make it in second - it may have been a very real chance. As TLL mentioned, less see what happen in Italy.

You can certainly argue on personality though he shares his success with his team and 6 stage wins last year and 5 this year is a pretty solid effort.

Too true, and what you say only backs my point. There are always the "what if's?"
and what if more of the other sprinters, didn't have their bad luck during Le Tour,
there would have been more competition.

My point, made about Petacchi, was he was always trying at each intermediate sprint, and even to work in breakaways.
That's why he has the Green Jersey.
Cavendish was denied the points classification's green jersey as Alessandro Petacchi finished second on the stage
to win the competition by 11 points, this year, 2010.
It was a moment of deja vu for Cavendish, who secured his sixth victory of the 2009 Tour on the same Paris boulevard.
Twelve months ago, was denied the maillot vert by 10 points and he was green with envy again this year as Petacchi
took the prize by 11 points.
"I'm disappointed this year not to win the green jersey," said Cavendish.
Two years in a row, same result. :wink:
This is why I said, one sprint wonder, winning stages is fine, but he will never win the Green Jersey,
that way, so he may never be really recognised as the Green Jersey Sprinter of Le Tour. Sad.
And that's personality (or lack of it) aside. :roll:
We all have our point of view, that's mine, no worries. :)
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Re: Tour de France 2010

Postby AUbicycles » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:58 am

I see what you are saying, he could win the green, and maybe it would be nice though when I was chatting with Mark Renshaw before the tour kicked off, it was pretty obvious that the goal was not the green, rather the stage wins. I think as he started racking up the points, the green became more realistic, but only probably because he had a chance. We know other riders like Thor only have their eyes on the green.. and that is their primary goal.

I don't mind the strategy, it is what they want, good for the team and the sponsors. Perhaps the taste for the green is really something that the media whips up in that the media assume that Cav is after the green and follow this line of thought... when all he wants to do is be first over the line :)

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