Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby twizzle » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:53 pm

Talking to a former elite (international) athlete, the dopers are still using the old drugs, they are just using better masking agents and methods.
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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby hannos » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:58 pm

Perhaps his 'pistollero' salute thing is a signal that he shoots up?
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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby brentono » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:25 pm

That's 50 parts per Trillion, think they will tread lightly with this one... :shock:

UCI Media Release
“The UCI confirmed today that Spanish rider Alberto Contador returned an adverse analytical finding for clenbuterol following the analysis of urine sample taken during an in competition test on 21st July 2010 on the second rest day of the Tour de France. This result was reported by the WADA accredited laboratory in Cologne to UCI and WADA simultaneously.

“The concentration found by the laboratory was estimated at 50 picograms (or 0,000 000 000 05 grams per ml) which is 400 time less than what the antidoping laboratories accredited by WADA must be able to detect.”

“In view of this very small concentration and in consultation with WADA, the UCI immediately had the proper results management proceedings conducted including the analysis of B sample that confirmed the first result. The rider, who had already put an end to his cycling season before the result was known, was nevertheless formally and provisionally suspended as is prescribed by the World Anti-Doping Code.

“This case required further scientific investigation before any conclusion could be drawn. The UCI continues working with the scientific support of WADA to analyse all the elements that are relevant to the case. This further investigation may take some more time.

“In order to protect the integrity of the proceedings and in accordance with the World Anti-Doping Code, the UCI will refrain from making any further comments until the management of this adverse analytical finding has been completed.”
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Postby one_damo » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:48 pm

Does UCI/WADA have a threshold detection level for banning, or is it as black and white as "detected/not detected"?

Think they will tread very lightly indeed, seeing as the Chinese Radioshack rider just got done for similar?

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Postby The Womble » Thu Sep 30, 2010 4:54 pm

The Chinese rider on Dopestrongs Radiosmack team copped a ban for ecactly the same levels found. It all comes down to how reliable the lab is that tested the samples

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby heay » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:32 pm

Sorry to say but I have been in sport for most of my life, It should not matter how much is in your system all athletes know what they can take and not take. If in doubt refer to the handbook that you can buy, it has a list of all banned substances in sport.

Wonder what FL will have to say about this?

Hope AC has bought his book and read it so he doesn't make the same mistakes. :shock:

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby Grant W » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:52 pm

The Womble wrote:The Chinese rider on Dopestrongs Radiosmack team copped a ban for ecactly the same levels found. It all comes down to how reliable the lab is that tested the samples

:mrgreen: :lol: :lol: HAHAHA!!

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Postby toolonglegs » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:59 pm

The Womble wrote: It all comes down to how reliable the lab is that tested the samples

French labs are very reliable... the lastest is that the first 18 riders in this years TDF are all under suspicion..."we had to get to 19th place to find a clean rider!".

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Postby cpical » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:09 pm

toolonglegs wrote:
The Womble wrote: It all comes down to how reliable the lab is that tested the samples

French labs are very reliable... the lastest is that the first 18 riders in this years TDF are all under suspicion..."we had to get to 19th place to find a clean rider!".



That would be :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: !

Where did you hear/read that? 8)

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby The Womble » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:15 pm

toolonglegs wrote:
The Womble wrote: It all comes down to how reliable the lab is that tested the samples

French labs are very reliable... the lastest is that the first 18 riders in this years TDF are all under suspicion..."we had to get to 19th place to find a clean rider!".

That would imclude Vadel? I thought he finished 23rd but wifey says 16th

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby Recycler » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:18 pm

Most comments seem like " Tall Poppy Syndrome" to me. Bob. :roll:

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Postby toolonglegs » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:19 pm

cpical wrote:
toolonglegs wrote:
The Womble wrote: It all comes down to how reliable the lab is that tested the samples

French labs are very reliable... the lastest is that the first 18 riders in this years TDF are all under suspicion..."we had to get to 19th place to find a clean rider!".



That would be :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: !

Where did you hear/read that? 8)


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Postby cpical » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:23 pm

toolonglegs wrote:
The UCI's private paper...L'Equipe...where else!.



Great news!!! A French won the Tour 2010 then!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Just kidding, couldn't care less!

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby toolonglegs » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:25 pm

50 picograms of Clen :|

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Postby cpical » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:29 pm

toolonglegs wrote:50 picograms of Clen :|



I'd like to know what the limit of detection and limit of quantitation are for the assay they are using!

And TLL is the "lastest" in today's l'Equipe?

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby toolonglegs » Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:45 pm

Didn't make todays paper...missed deadline.Maybe their inside line is slipping.

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby jules21 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:03 pm

experts are saying the contaminated food explanation is plausible. if that was the cause, i feel desperately sorry for the bloke.

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby Parker » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:26 pm

It sure is the day for it...

Worst kept secret in cycling? We can now (almost) officially say out loud that Ezequiel Mosquera is a doper

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Postby cpical » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:55 pm

toolonglegs wrote:Didn't make todays paper...missed deadline.Maybe their inside line is slipping.



Hum...Where did you read it then? :mrgreen:


Edit: The French labs were, as far as I know, not involved in analysing las TdF samples.

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby toolonglegs » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:37 pm

Fun and games in Italy today as well apparently...Cobra going down?.

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby betterthanwalking » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:52 pm

From Wiki, " It is most commonly available as the hydrochloride salt clenbuterol hydrochloride".

He must have had it on his chips then :mrgreen:

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby jules21 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:52 pm

toolonglegs wrote:Fun and games in Italy today as well apparently...Cobra going down?.

err.. for what that he hasn't already been caught for? :)

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Postby toolonglegs » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:56 pm

cpical wrote:
toolonglegs wrote:Didn't make todays paper...missed deadline.Maybe their inside line is slipping.



Hum...Where did you read it then? :mrgreen:


Edit: The French labs were, as far as I know, not involved in analysing las TdF samples.


Ok...well blame the Germans then :mrgreen:

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby toolonglegs » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:57 pm

jules21 wrote:
toolonglegs wrote:Fun and games in Italy today as well apparently...Cobra going down?.

err.. for what that he hasn't already been caught for? :)

Maybe so...TBC.

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Re: Alberto Contador tests positive for clenbuterol

Postby AUbicycles » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:03 pm

The Germans (Lab) and the French (Newspaper) against the Spanish.

And just wait til Floyd Landis comes to the party... I told you so.

I though cycling was getting smart - and I hope that this doesn't turn into another farce.
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